Humble_Beast Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 He’s fast and athletic enough to play olb both spots in 4-3. Smh Mayock and Gruden went safe and looked for leadership traits with Ferrell and Abram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Humble_Beast said: He’s fast and athletic enough to play olb both spots in 4-3. Smh Mayock and Gruden went safe and looked for leadership traits with Ferrell and Abram Honestly, I'm just complaining because I'm sick of not having a pass rush. Cle has some nice qualities to him. I just am left wanting more for where he was picked. Then again, he's 2 games in. So let's wait and see. It's just rough watching our pass rush flounder yet again. Further, we have other players besides Ferrell who we need to get after the QB too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: I know Ok. Just saying. He could be another Vic Beasley. Terrible against the run and inconsistent years of pass rush since teams know he’s only rushing the passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Ok. Just saying. He could be another Vic Beasley. Terrible against the run and inconsistent years of pass rush since teams know he’s only rushing the passer. Gotchu. I summarized my feelings above. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGruber Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Honestly, I'm just complaining because I'm sick of not having a pass rush. Cle has some nice qualities to him. I just am left wanting more for where he was picked. Then again, he's 2 games in. So let's wait and see. It's just rough watching our pass rush flounder yet again. Further, we have other players besides Ferrell who we need to get after the QB too Same it’s crazy jags sacked Mariota 9 times and Yannick Ngakoue had none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Still don’t want Ramsey but I’d be willing to do something like this if we address WR in FA: Bears 1st and Bears 3rd for Ramsey Sign AJ Green and Robby Anderson in Free Agency Draft EDGE Chase Young with our own 1st Rounder, we’ll have to be a Top 3 bad team. Roll with Carr 2020 (will make a lot of you happy) If Carr doesn’t have a 35 TD 8 INT 8.5 YPA 4500 yard type season with those three receivers, Jacobs, and that OL, trade our WHOLE draft for Trevor Lawrence 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Raider Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Not sure we will be top 3 bad. The Ramsey trade is tough because I think the needs at lb, edge, and wr are greater and this draft is good for those positions. AJ is still a decent receiver but the injuries are piling up. Those toothpick ankles scare the hell out of me. Is Robby that different from Tyrell Williams? I think rolling with Carr for 2020 is a good idea as long as he doesn’t totally flop over the next 14 weeks. We still have more needs and I wouldn’t want to open up another one next year. If we are going to draft a qb, I would rather he isn’t in catch up mode every week and has a true number one wideout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Anyone else excited to watch Peterman and Mariota compete for the backup job next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, BayRaider said: Still don’t want Ramsey but I’d be willing to do something like this if we address WR in FA: Bears 1st and Bears 3rd for Ramsey Sign AJ Green and Robby Anderson in Free Agency Draft EDGE Chase Young with our own 1st Rounder, we’ll have to be a Top 3 bad team. Roll with Carr 2020 (will make a lot of you happy) If Carr doesn’t have a 35 TD 8 INT 8.5 YPA 4500 yard type season with those three receivers, Jacobs, and that OL, trade our WHOLE draft for Trevor Lawrence 2021. Do you even watch the NFL or just randomly post things? NYG, Miami, Jets, Tampa Bay, and Pittsburgh all suck and that’s off the top my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, BayRaider said: The biggest gripe with Allen is setting the edge as a run defender in a 4-3 system. For someone so ready to criticize the Raiders you defend the team on their most obvious mistake. Edited September 20, 2019 by Rich7sena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, agarcia34 said: Josh Allen has looked really good. Shows a nice burst off the line. Some people around here hated his get off saying that’s all he has doesn’t use his baby hands lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: Anyone else excited to watch Peterman and Mariota compete for the backup job next year? I'd be cool with that tbh. It may be the Oregon fan in me, but I still think Mariota could succeed with a change of scenery. It's not a sure thing that he'll be successful in the league, but worse QB's have found success later on. If he could be had without breaking the bank, he'd be worth the investment. He'll only be 26 at the start of the season. That's plenty of time to learn to flourish (at least at a backup level) in a new system. That being said, it does strike me how many high QB picks have found little success on teams that drafted them because they were bad beforehand (thinking Griffin, Mariota, Winston, Tannehill, Alex Smith, Rosen, Goff (pre-McVay), Manziel, Bortles). Now, that list certainly covers the spectrum from decent starter (Smith) to out of the league altogether (Manziel), but I think some people sometimes underestimate things like coaching, scheme, weapons, etc. when talking about the QB position. Of that list, there really isn't one that I wouldn't consider bringing in as a coach (Manziel with his baggage, Goff's franchise status, and Smith's age/injury being the exceptions) as a backup, or even to compete as a starting spot. I firmly believe at least Mariota, Winston, Rosen, and Bortles will get 2nd chances in the league, and probably deservedly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 That list of QBs highlights the uncertainty of picking a "franchise QB" in the 1st. I totally understand why some want to move on from Carr (honestly, i don't think he'll ever be a SB winning QB) but getting a new QB in the 1st won't necessarily bring an upgrade. That's not an easy decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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big_palooka Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ronjon1990 said: It may be the Oregon fan in me Same. I think Mariota has been in a bad spot for awhile. He needs to be coached back up in a system that fits his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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