Chali21 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Biggest fear with getting Lamb who doesn’t create a lot of separation is Carr not throwing it to him. Lamb is not gonna create the separation that Carr likes so he can throw the ball. We seen it fail with Tyrell who is a big body WR that u just have to trust and throw it. If Carr is the QB he’s gonna just have to throw it in into tight coverage. Like he did in 2016. That shouldn’t matter because if Carr doesn’t well, which he wouldn’t if he doesn’t throw it to Lamb, then he’d get the boot. Take the best guy at 12 hands down. If he can’t get him the ball then find someone who will. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Biggest fear with getting Lamb who doesn’t create a lot of separation is Carr not throwing it to him. Lamb is not gonna create the separation that Carr likes so he can throw the ball. We seen it fail with Tyrell who is a big body WR that u just have to trust and throw it. If Carr is the QB he’s gonna just have to throw it in into tight coverage. Like he did in 2016. Where does all this separation talk come from? Everything I have seen showcases he is a very good route runner. Sure he won't break the 40 record but I don't see him struggling to get open in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I could be happy with either combo... CeeDee and K.J Hamler or Ruggs III and Pittman Jr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agarcia34 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Where does all this separation talk come from? Everything I have seen showcases he is a very good route runner. Sure he won't break the 40 record but I don't see him struggling to get open in the NFL. He’s a good route runner but what I’m saying is he is not gonna create a lot of separation. It’s not a knock on him or anything it’s just the WR that he is. There are WRs like Michael Thomas and Hopkins who are the best in the business and don’t create a lot of separation. My whole point was saying with this type of WR u need a QB that’s going to just trust him and just throw it. Carr would need to think of him like a Michael Crabtree and just throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: He’s a good route runner but what I’m saying is he is not gonna create a lot of separation. It’s not a knock on him or anything it’s just the WR that he is. There are WRs like Michael Thomas and Hopkins who are the best in the business and don’t create a lot of separation. My whole point was saying with this type of WR u need a QB that’s going to just trust him and just throw it. Carr would need to think of him like a Michael Crabtree and just throw it. Ah I see. Fair enough. If/when we draft a WR high, there are exactly zero excuses for Carr this season. He'd be in the system for a 3rd year, have one of the best lines in football, a top 3 receiving TE, top 10 RB, top 5 FB, and 3 very capable WR's in prospect/Renfrow and Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Where does all this separation talk come from? Everything I have seen showcases he is a very good route runner. Sure he won't break the 40 record but I don't see him struggling to get open in the NFL. I’m just look at this speed and comparing it to NFL Defenses. NFL is light years faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Ah I see. Fair enough. If/when we draft a WR high, there are exactly zero excuses for Carr this season. He'd be in the system for a 3rd year, have one of the best lines in football, a top 3 receiving TE, top 10 RB, top 5 FB, and 3 very capable WR's in prospect/Renfrow and Williams. People act like Carr was garbage - 4,000 yards - 70 % completion percentage - best wideout was a slow, undersized 5th round rookie - team improved from 4-12 to 7-9 with a lot of competitive games - AB went crazy, and team was so desperate for WR talent they traded in season for 2 wideouts - offense was still not a train wreck and made strides - defense never creates turnovers, short field advantage, or gimme points - GM and Coach both praise the QB play Could Carr be better? Of course, he didn’t have an MVP type of year like Jackson, Wilson, or Mahomes. I don’t think he had a bad year given all the variables with the team. Next year be the time to judge him, with wideout talent, years in the complex system, and more talent across the board. Of course he needs to improve if we want to be a true powerhouse in the AFC. Everybody does Edited January 23, 2020 by Humble_Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Where does all this separation talk come from? Everything I have seen showcases he is a very good route runner. Sure he won't break the 40 record but I don't see him struggling to get open in the NFL. I agree with this right here. H. Renfrow is not a burner, but his route running and ability to get open are superb. I would say CD Lamb is the same as Renfrow, but better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I just wanted to say I've seen a lot of talk about KJ Hill at the Senior Bowl. I've read that he's projected as a day two (2-3 round) pick. Hoping we can get a first round WR and another in the third. I know some may believe that is overkill, but I think the WR depth would be great. CD Lamb, Williams, Renfrow, KJ Hill as our 4 would be awesome. I don't follow college ball much, so if any of you college football experts could weigh in, it would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Humble_Beast said: People act like Carr was garbage - 4,000 yards - 70 % completion percentage - best wideout was a slow, undersized 5th round rookie - team improved from 4-12 to 7-9 with a lot of competitive games - AB went crazy, and team was so desperate for WR talent they traded in season for 2 wideouts - offense was still not a train wreck and made strides - defense never creates turnovers, short field advantage, or gimme points - GM and Coach both praise the QB play Could Carr be better? Of course, he didn’t have an MVP type of year like Jackson, Wilson, or Mahomes. I don’t think he had a bad year given all the variables with the team. Next year be the time to judge him, with wideout talent, years in the complex system, and more talent across the board. Of course he needs to improve if we want to be a true powerhouse in the AFC. Everybody does Carr talk goes in the Carr thread 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: Ah I see. Fair enough. If/when we draft a WR high, there are exactly zero excuses for Carr this season. He'd be in the system for a 3rd year, have one of the best lines in football, a top 3 receiving TE, top 10 RB, top 5 FB, and 3 very capable WR's in prospect/Renfrow and Williams. They’ll always be excuses the wr was just a rookie, not enough chemistry with carr, timing will be better next year, gruden threatened to blow Carr’s house up if he doesn’t check down etc etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, NCOUGHMAN said: They’ll always be excuses the wr was just a rookie, not enough chemistry with carr, timing will be better next year, gruden threatened to blow Carr’s house up if he doesn’t check down etc etc Or worst case scenario, rookie gets injured for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jerry said: I just wanted to say I've seen a lot of talk about KJ Hill at the Senior Bowl. I've read that he's projected as a day two (2-3 round) pick. Hoping we can get a first round WR and another in the third. I know some may believe that is overkill, but I think the WR depth would be great. CD Lamb, Williams, Renfrow, KJ Hill as our 4 would be awesome. I don't follow college ball much, so if any of you college football experts could weigh in, it would be greatly appreciated. I had never heard of KJ Hill until this week so no college football expert here but that's nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, oakdb36 said: I came here to post this lol. Wonder if it would be awkward if we got Ruggs haha. Doubt it since they’re pros but still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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