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11 minutes ago, mse326 said:

I agree as long as that is limited to an ingredient that is supposed to be in it. The tainted supplement or meat excuse has certainly been overused where players just claim it even though it is likely patently false but it does happen. I would require the player to actually prove it was tainted however. If it is meat that will likely be impossible. Supplements may be possible. I've always imagined that if I was an athlete not only would I be calling up the players asociation, league, USADA, WADA, and the manufacturer to make sure there was nothing illegal in something I was taking, I would also leave 2 pills (or some liquid if that is the form it is in) of every single bottle I used between tests so if one comes back positive I would have to test and prove they were tainted. Only after a test cleared me would I finish the bottle.

Easier still and more proactive......get whatever it is you intend to take tested independently before you take it.
Cant say how much cash Tate will lose in game day checks - but I doubt the testing cost(s) would exceed it.

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1 hour ago, PFM18 said:

They could easily argue he should have checked the ingredients before he started taking them, and that he's still made a mistake. 

Here's the thing. For the vast majority of prescription meds, there is only 1 active ingredient. (he said it was prescribed to him)
Supplements do have multiple ingredients are often tainted because of lax regulations. Supplements are often made with crapola raw materials sourced from China and India and loaded with impurities. But there aren't supplements to treat male infertility. ( which ironically enough can result from other PED use) and he wouldn't need a prescription to get them

For a prescribed medicine: they are highly regulated, they don't have contaminants and there isn't a lengthy list of ingredients to sort through. And in the male infertility world there are only a few options that are used with any frequency. They are both highly potent meds with a single active ingredient. One is a pill, the other an injection. They both work by increasing testosterone production and testosterone is a banned PED in the NFL

Its highly likely that he is full of excrement, just like all the others that claim ignorance/innocence. He knows the rules, he has full access to all the assistance he needs and he alone bears the responsibility for effing up. All he had to do was get a Therapeutic Use Exemption from the NFL like hundreds of other players and he'd be fine. He got caught, he's telling a lie to cover it up and the lie doesn't make sense from a medical POV.

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The Rams have a pair of intriguing WR trade targets. Josh Reynolds is an outside threat with the potential to take the top off of the defense. Reynolds had 29 receptions over 400 receiving yards in half of a season as part of a rotation after Kupp got hurt and Woods slid to the slot. He profiles as a Marvin Jones-type receiver. Like him a lot, but he won't be getting much playing time with the people ahead of him on the Rams' depth chart.

Robert Woods could be a potential target. With Kupp being Goff's favorite target and the team's primary slot receiver, Woods will slide back outside. He has developed into a complete receiver over the course of the past three seasons, and he might be expendable for the Rams due to Reynolds' emergence and cap cost. It would save the Rams money that they need for important extensions, including John Johnsonsonsonson, Austin Blythe, and Jared Goff. 

The Giants obviously could also target someone like Dez Bryant or a toxic lazy guy with name value like Kelvin B.

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2 hours ago, mse326 said:

I agree as long as that is limited to an ingredient that is supposed to be in it. The tainted supplement or meat excuse has certainly been overused where players just claim it even though it is likely patently false but it does happen. I would require the player to actually prove it was tainted however. If it is meat that will likely be impossible. Supplements may be possible. I've always imagined that if I was an athlete not only would I be calling up the players asociation, league, USADA, WADA, and the manufacturer to make sure there was nothing illegal in something I was taking, I would also leave 2 pills (or some liquid if that is the form it is in) of every single bottle I used between tests so if one comes back positive I would have to test and prove they were tainted. Only after a test cleared me would I finish the bottle.

This seems reasonable and from my perspective clearly not what happened with Tate since he knew he failed before hearing the results. 

I don't think Tate is lying and sympathize with him. I just think a hard rule with PEDs needs to be in place to try and maintain a level playing field. 

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6 minutes ago, LeotheLion said:

I don't think Tate is lying

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3 hours ago, PFM18 said:

Who knows with the NFL.

They could easily argue he should have checked the ingredients before he started taking them, and that he's still made a mistake. 

Lane Johnson took a substance that was OK'd by an NFL sponsored App, but it still resulted in a suspension. Golden Tate is they are holding him to the same standards will be serving his suspension.

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