WizardHawk Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: "All these advances stats can not disprove that I saw him throw some bad passes therefore he is awful" - CowboysTrolls Oh and by the way....it makes me mad Dallas doesn't use analytics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, WizardHawk said: Oh and by the way....it makes me mad Dallas doesn't use analytics. For a team that used to be at the forefront of advancements in the game...me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, WizardHawk said: 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: "All these advances stats can not disprove that I saw him throw some bad passes therefore he is awful" - CowboysTrolls Oh and by the way....it makes me mad Dallas doesn't use analytics. A... Fudging.... Men "Cowboys are stupid because they dont use analytics" "Analytics are stupid because they all say Dak is top 10" I seriously have grown to hate a lot of football fans. They attempt to stay ignorant so that they can hate whatever they chose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, D82 said: For a team that used to be at the forefront of advancements in the game...me too. (I think you missed his sardonic tone) But he was also supporting analyticals, so I guess you got his message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I seriously have grown to hate a lot of football fans. They attempt to stay ignorant so that they can hate whatever they chose. Let’s not bury the lede though. It’s far more concerning that the team refutes the value of analytics than it is that its fans do. The former very much begets the latter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, matt79511 said: Let’s not bury the lede though. It’s far more concerning that the team refutes the value of analytics than it is that its fans do. The former very much begets the latter Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, matt79511 said: Let’s not bury the lede though. It’s far more concerning that the team refutes the value of analytics than it is that its fans do. The former very much begets the latter The current HC, no matter how much I like the guy, is stuck in 1993. Analytics are here to stay. The next HC better be on board. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevators_rule Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Matts4313 said: A... Fudging.... Men "Cowboys are stupid because they dont use analytics" "Analytics are stupid because they all say Dak is top 10" I seriously have grown to hate a lot of football fans. They attempt to stay ignorant so that they can hate whatever they chose. Those are really interesting stats. Do you think Dak should get a huge contract then? 40m+? The stats seem to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Matts4313 said: A... Fudging.... Men "Cowboys are stupid because they dont use analytics" "Analytics are stupid because they all say Dak is top 10" I seriously have grown to hate a lot of football fans. They attempt to stay ignorant so that they can hate whatever they chose. Funny thing about analytics is that even if you have the basic understanding of how math works. You make those numbers say whatever you want them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Matts4313 said: The current HC, no matter how much I like the guy, is stuck in 1993. Analytics are here to stay. The next HC better be on board. You bet. Understanding the odds helps with critical in-game decisions. John Harbaugh is so obsessed with them that he has a team going over them during the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Matts4313 said: The current HC, no matter how much I like the guy, is stuck in 1993. Analytics are here to stay. The next HC better be on board. His refusal to use analytics kept us out of the playoffs in 2008. It also could have prevented winning a Super Bowl during the aughts. Parcells rejected analytics also. During that decade we averaged about 5 yards per attempt running left behind Flo and about 2.5 yards going right behind whatever scrap pile recycle reject was playing RT. Both JG and BP ran twice as often to the right than to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 17 hours ago, plan9misfit said: You bet. Understanding the odds helps with critical in-game decisions. Not just in-game, in game planning as well. And not just in critical moments, but also in the seemingly non-critical moments that, added up over a full game and/or a season, can make a huge difference in the outcomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) RK PLAYER TM G Y/G TD/G INT% SCORE DIFF 1 Lamar Jackson* BAL 15 281.8 2.9 1.5 131.6 0 2 Matthew Stafford DET 8 303.5 2.4 1.7 125.4 -6.2 3 Drew Brees* NOR 11 262.4 2.5 1.1 125.1 -0.3 4 Patrick Mahomes* KAN 14 294.4 2 1 124.1 -1.1 5 Dak Prescott DAL 16 314.3 2.1 1.8 121.1 -3 6 Russell Wilson* SEA 16 258.3 2 1 114.8 -6.2 7 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 16 243.8 1.7 0.7 108.7 -6.2 8 Carson Wentz PHI 16 253.3 1.8 1.2 106.4 -2.2 9 Ryan Tannehill TEN 11 247 2.4 2.1 106.1 -0.3 10 Deshaun Watson* HOU 15 267.2 2.2 2.4 104.7 -1.4 11 Matt Ryan ATL 15 286.5 1.7 2.3 101.8 -2.8 12 Tom Brady NWE 16 244.1 1.6 1.3 100.6 -1.3 13 Kirk Cousins MIN 15 230.7 1.8 1.4 99.3 -1.3 14 Gardner Minshew JAX 14 245.1 1.5 1.3 98.4 -0.9 15 Daniel Jones NYG 12 249.1 2.2 2.6 97.1 -1.4 16 Teddy Bridgewater NOR 6 220.5 1.5 1 95.6 -1.5 17 Derek Carr OAK 16 247 1.3 1.6 91.8 -3.8 18 Jared Goff LAR 16 281.8 1.4 2.6 90.3 -1.5 19 Josh Allen BUF 16 210.1 1.8 2 87.3 -3 20 Ryan Fitzpatrick MIA 14 252.4 1.6 2.6 86.5 -0.8 21 Kyler Murray ARI 16 247.3 1.4 2.2 86.1 -0.4 22 Jacoby Brissett IND 15 200.7 1.4 1.3 85.2 -1 23 Jimmy Garoppolo SFO 16 237.7 1.7 2.7 83.8 -1.3 24 Mitchell Trubisky CHI 14 220.6 1.4 1.9 82.4 -1.4 25 Drew Lock DEN 5 213.2 1.4 1.9 81.4 -1.1 26 Andy Dalton CIN 13 255.2 1.3 2.7 81.1 -0.3 27 Jameis Winston TAM 16 317.3 1.7 4.8 79.8 -1.3 28 Philip Rivers LAC 16 276.4 1.4 3.4 79.6 -0.2 29 Marcus Mariota TEN 6 191 1.2 1.3 78.2 -1.4 30 Jeff Driskel DET 3 263.3 1.7 3.8 77.2 -1 31 Sam Darnold NYJ 13 221.1 1.6 2.9 75.9 -1.3 32 Eli Manning NYG 4 251.3 1.5 3.4 75.6 -0.3 33 Kyle Allen CAR 13 233.2 1.4 3.3 69.9 -5.7 34 Joe Flacco DEN 8 206 0.8 1.9 67.1 -2.8 35 Case Keenum WAS 9 175 1.2 2 67 -0.1 36 Baker Mayfield CLE 16 230.2 1.5 3.9 64.4 -2.7 37 Nick Foles JAX 4 174.8 0.8 1.7 61.4 -2.9 38 Mason Rudolph PIT 10 168.3 1.3 3.2 52.8 -8.6 39 Dwayne Haskins WAS 8 155.9 0.8 3 41.5 -11.4 40 David Blough DET 5 182.2 0.6 3.4 40.7 -0.8 41 Josh Rosen MIA 4 122 0.3 3.8 14 -26.8 42 Devlin Hodges PIT 8 128.6 0.6 5 8.9 -5.1 Minimum 100 attempts in season to qualify. Minimum 5 attempts for a game to qualify. Y/G = (Pass YD + Rush YD – Sack YD)/G TD/G = (Pass TD + Rush TD – Pick 6)/G Int% = Int/Att Score = ((Y/G value - min Y/G)/(max Y/G – min Y/G) + (TD/G value - min TD/G)/(max TD/G – min TD/G) + (1-(int% value - min int%)/(max int% – min int%)))*50 So, the person with the best value would get 50 for each category and the person with the worst 0. The maximum score is 150 for a QB that was the best in all three categories and the worst 0 for a QB that was the worst in every category. Here’s more detail for each category for those that are interested. Edited January 3, 2020 by Matts4313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: RK PLAYER TM G Y/G TD/G INT% SCORE DIFF 1 Lamar Jackson* BAL 15 281.8 2.9 1.5 131.6 0 2 Matthew Stafford DET 8 303.5 2.4 1.7 125.4 -6.2 3 Drew Brees* NOR 11 262.4 2.5 1.1 125.1 -0.3 4 Patrick Mahomes* KAN 14 294.4 2 1 124.1 -1.1 5 Dak Prescott DAL 16 314.3 2.1 1.8 121.1 -3 6 Russell Wilson* SEA 16 258.3 2 1 114.8 -6.2 7 Aaron Rodgers* GNB 16 243.8 1.7 0.7 108.7 -6.2 8 Carson Wentz PHI 16 253.3 1.8 1.2 106.4 -2.2 9 Ryan Tannehill TEN 11 247 2.4 2.1 106.1 -0.3 10 Deshaun Watson* HOU 15 267.2 2.2 2.4 104.7 -1.4 11 Matt Ryan ATL 15 286.5 1.7 2.3 101.8 -2.8 12 Tom Brady NWE 16 244.1 1.6 1.3 100.6 -1.3 13 Kirk Cousins MIN 15 230.7 1.8 1.4 99.3 -1.3 14 Gardner Minshew JAX 14 245.1 1.5 1.3 98.4 -0.9 15 Daniel Jones NYG 12 249.1 2.2 2.6 97.1 -1.4 16 Teddy Bridgewater NOR 6 220.5 1.5 1 95.6 -1.5 17 Derek Carr OAK 16 247 1.3 1.6 91.8 -3.8 18 Jared Goff LAR 16 281.8 1.4 2.6 90.3 -1.5 19 Josh Allen BUF 16 210.1 1.8 2 87.3 -3 20 Ryan Fitzpatrick MIA 14 252.4 1.6 2.6 86.5 -0.8 21 Kyler Murray ARI 16 247.3 1.4 2.2 86.1 -0.4 22 Jacoby Brissett IND 15 200.7 1.4 1.3 85.2 -1 23 Jimmy Garoppolo SFO 16 237.7 1.7 2.7 83.8 -1.3 24 Mitchell Trubisky CHI 14 220.6 1.4 1.9 82.4 -1.4 25 Drew Lock DEN 5 213.2 1.4 1.9 81.4 -1.1 26 Andy Dalton CIN 13 255.2 1.3 2.7 81.1 -0.3 27 Jameis Winston TAM 16 317.3 1.7 4.8 79.8 -1.3 28 Philip Rivers LAC 16 276.4 1.4 3.4 79.6 -0.2 29 Marcus Mariota TEN 6 191 1.2 1.3 78.2 -1.4 30 Jeff Driskel DET 3 263.3 1.7 3.8 77.2 -1 31 Sam Darnold NYJ 13 221.1 1.6 2.9 75.9 -1.3 32 Eli Manning NYG 4 251.3 1.5 3.4 75.6 -0.3 33 Kyle Allen CAR 13 233.2 1.4 3.3 69.9 -5.7 34 Joe Flacco DEN 8 206 0.8 1.9 67.1 -2.8 35 Case Keenum WAS 9 175 1.2 2 67 -0.1 36 Baker Mayfield CLE 16 230.2 1.5 3.9 64.4 -2.7 37 Nick Foles JAX 4 174.8 0.8 1.7 61.4 -2.9 38 Mason Rudolph PIT 10 168.3 1.3 3.2 52.8 -8.6 39 Dwayne Haskins WAS 8 155.9 0.8 3 41.5 -11.4 40 David Blough DET 5 182.2 0.6 3.4 40.7 -0.8 41 Josh Rosen MIA 4 122 0.3 3.8 14 -26.8 42 Devlin Hodges PIT 8 128.6 0.6 5 8.9 -5.1 Minimum 100 attempts in season to qualify. Minimum 5 attempts for a game to qualify. Y/G = (Pass YD + Rush YD – Sack YD)/G TD/G = (Pass TD + Rush TD – Pick 6)/G Int% = Int/Att Score = ((Y/G value - min Y/G)/(max Y/G – min Y/G) + (TD/G value - min TD/G)/(max TD/G – min TD/G) + (1-(int% value - min int%)/(max int% – min int%)))*50 So, the person with the best value would get 50 for each category and the person with the worst 0. The maximum score is 150 for a QB that was the best in all three categories and the worst 0 for a QB that was the worst in every category. Here’s more detail for each category for those that are interested. So we should trade Dak and his $35 million ask for Matt Stafford and his $27 million cap hit? Kidding, kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Jim Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/1/2020 at 3:41 PM, Matts4313 said: I seriously have grown to hate a lot of football fans. They attempt to stay ignorant so that they can hate whatever they chose. It's the American way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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