LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Robinson makes a ton of mental errors and gets flagged literally every game. I don’t know if he’s better or worse than Hubbard, but he’s not been great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaWg_LB. Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaWg_LB. Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 It needs some updating......an oldy but a goodie.... The only way we can beat New England is INCH BY INCH!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Randall is out again. His extension is going up in smoke. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Randall is out again. His extension is going up in smoke. Yeah he’s leaving a lot of money on the table. Maybe a good thing for us long term tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah he’s leaving a lot of money on the table. Maybe a good thing for us long term tho. Yes, maybe but I hate to give up on a player whose troll game is elite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 10 hours ago, pnies20 said: He's been made a scapegoat, I'd be upset too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: He's been made a scapegoat, I'd be upset too Scapegoat? Dude has sucked too. Browns have two bad tackles, which one do you upgrade first? I would say the LT because it’s the most important offensive line position also you add his extremely inconsistent play with the amount of mental mistakes, the dude had the writing on the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, buno67 said: Scapegoat? Dude has sucked too. Browns have two bad tackles, which one do you upgrade first? I would say the LT because it’s the most important offensive line position also you add his extremely inconsistent play with the amount of mental mistakes, the dude had the writing on the wall Bro, Greg Robinson is not the reason the we are 2-4 stop it, to do all of this public grandstanding about the OL is a bad look on our part IYAM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Bro, Greg Robinson is not the reason the we are 2-4 stop it, to do all of this public grandstanding about the OL is a bad look on our part IYAM issues on why the browns have lost/struggled poor play out of the WRs poor play out of the QB poor coaching poor offensive line play. which one can be fixed now? Higgins can make a difference now that he is back. You ain’t benching Baker, you ain’t firing Freddie, you can tinker with the offensive line now who doesn’t have a future with the Browns? Browns WRs have a future. Baker has a future, Freddie has a future. Only two OL have a future on this team and that’s JCT and Bit. Now which positions is more important to upgrade first , LT, RG, or RT? We’ll pass blocking wise Greg Robinson to me has been the worst pass blocker. Pass blocking is the most impactful aspect of a LT, so I would upgrade that position first you Fix the LT spot baker might improve because he isn’t fearing for his blindside. He had bailed on good protection at times because he doesn’t trust Robinson. Play calling could improve because Robinson won’t have a stupid flag or two game that puts the offense in a bad position. RT and RG could improve cause instead of deciding to bring extra pass blocking help to RT or LT or trying to decide what blocking scheme to utilize To help the RT or the LT, they can no focus on helping RIght side instead of deciding between right or left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, buno67 said: Scapegoat? Dude has sucked too. Browns have two bad tackles, which one do you upgrade first? I would say the LT because it’s the most important offensive line position also you add his extremely inconsistent play with the amount of mental mistakes, the dude had the writing on the wall Greg Robinson is tied-15th in Penalties (5); tied-43rd in QB hits allowed (1 QB Hit) and tied-21st in QB pressures allowed (4) according to PFF elite. Chris Hubbard has been worse. And when you take into account the film and watching Eric Kush get pushed into Baker's lap and into his line of sight repeatedly Kush has been worse as well imo. I think what drives the dominant belief in Robinson as being some next level terrible Tackle is: 1.) That when he sucks and is bad they are catastrophically terrible plays that are memorable, 2.) He had the stigma of being terrible and a bust early in his career, 3.) He gets penalties at inopportune times, 4.) At least for this year, Robinson being kicked out of a game coupled with the fact that the offense has struggled means that when searching for someone to blame it's easier to find a player that has been known in memory to be trash either in the past before he got here or in flashes when he's been catastrophically bad for the Brown, 5.) He's just not a consistently good player. The fact is if you watch Tackle play around the league Robinson is average to above average, but one thing can't be overlooked: He's a force in run blocking. He has been scapegoated for the OLine's ills if he is the only one benched and not Chris Hubbard or Eric Kush. So, if other people are committing errors and not held accountable for their errors but Greg Robinson is then that to me is the very definition of being scapegoated for our offensive struggles. No way around it. Now, with the league being how it is one can understand why he is being benched and Freddie not fired and Baker not benched, but that doesn't mean we can't call it for what it is. If it's a meritocracy and player's get benched for poor performance heading into and out of the bye week then also bench Eric Kush, Chris Hubbard, and Antonio Callaway as well. Robinson was never the guy never the longterm solution, but if he needs benching so do Hubbard, Kush, and Callaway. Edited October 27, 2019 by Mind Character 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Kush and hubbard must be the worst rg and rt combo in the league and baker isnt wilson or murray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Kush and hubbard must be the worst rg and rt combo in the league and baker isnt wilson or murray I have to think Teller takes over for Kush this week. We didn’t trade two picks for him to sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 It will be raining all day in Foxboro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, candyman93 said: It will be raining all day in Foxboro. Good weather to run the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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