MNF: Packers at Vikings

[pacman5252]

The stat people hate GB but they haven’t been watching the whole games. They’ve gotten leads, gone into prevent on D, and don’t have the O to go for the throat, thus they win games and lose star battles (total yards and ypp). They’ve had double digit leads in 10 of their 12 wins this year in the 4th. Their 4th quarter yard total is horrible but it doesn’t matter since it is mostly due to game flow

[Bolts223]

19 minutes ago, pacman5252 said:

The stat people hate GB but they haven’t been watching the whole games. They’ve gotten leads, gone into prevent on D, and don’t have the O to go for the throat, thus they win games and lose star battles (total yards and ypp). They’ve had double digit leads in 10 of their 12 wins this year in the 4th. Their 4th quarter yard total is horrible but it doesn’t matter since it is mostly due to game flow

I think the Packers are the type of team where getting a first round bye gives them a fighting chance.

But they would be toast without it.

[incognito_man]

1 hour ago, TENINCH said:

We were missing our best player and you were playing run defense against a 3rd stringer that got his first NFL TD last week.

And you lost by two TDs at home lol

[Forge]

11 minutes ago, Bolts223 said:

I think the Packers are the type of team where getting a first round bye gives them a fighting chance.

But they would be toast without it.

In fairness though, most teams are. Only 11 of 58 super bowl participants since this format has been adopted have had to play on wild card weekend. I think thats the stat. May be twelve, but it's somewhere around there. 

It's a brutal hill to climb

[Hukos]

29 minutes ago, pacman5252 said:

The stat people hate GB but they haven’t been watching the whole games. They’ve gotten leads, gone into prevent on D, and don’t have the O to go for the throat, thus they win games and lose star battles (total yards and ypp). They’ve had double digit leads in 10 of their 12 wins this year in the 4th. Their 4th quarter yard total is horrible but it doesn’t matter since it is mostly due to game flow

This is generally a good recipe for getting to the playoffs. This is generally not a good recipe for winning Super Bowls. Teams that win Super Bowls are often the ones running up the score and destroying their opponents by multiple touchdowns. It's not a matter of stat people liking or not liking certain teams, it's that historically, Super Bowl teams obliterate their competition into a smoldering pit of nothing every week.

You have outliers like the 2007/2011 Giants, but generally speaking, the teams that win championships are the ones destroying their competition 42-3 every week. It's not outright impossible to win a championship with a grind it out type of team, but your odds aren't looking good for it.

[Forge]

1 hour ago, Malfatron said:

and if SF wins next week, i hope the vikings take them out too

I smell fear...

[incognito_man]

1 minute ago, Hukos said:

This is generally a good recipe for getting to the playoffs. This is generally not a good recipe for winning Super Bowls. Teams that win Super Bowls are often the ones running up the score and destroying their opponents by multiple touchdowns. It's not a matter of stat people liking or not liking certain teams, it's that historically, Super Bowl teams obliterate their competition into a smoldering pit of nothing every week.

You have outliers like the 2007/2011 Giants, but generally speaking, the teams that win championships are the ones destroying their competition 42-3 every week. It's not outright impossible to win a championship with a grind it out type of team, but your odds aren't looking good for it.

Citation needed

[Bolts223]

3 minutes ago, Hukos said:

This is generally a good recipe for getting to the playoffs. This is generally not a good recipe for winning Super Bowls. Teams that win Super Bowls are often the ones running up the score and destroying their opponents by multiple touchdowns. It's not a matter of stat people liking or not liking certain teams, it's that historically, Super Bowl teams obliterate their competition into a smoldering pit of nothing every week.

You have outliers like the 2007/2011 Giants, but generally speaking, the teams that win championships are the ones destroying their competition 42-3 every week. It's not outright impossible to win a championship with a grind it out type of team, but your odds aren't looking good for it.

It's insanely rare to see this happen. Last year the Patriots got stomped by the Titans and Lions and also lost to Miami & Jacksonville.

The 2015 Broncos won a ridiculous amount of close games.

The 2014 Patriots got stomped by the Chiefs on SNF.

The 2012 Ravens finished the season 1-4 headed into the playoffs.

Do I think the Packers will win the SB? No. But pretty much any team that can secure a 1st round bye has a chance.

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by Bolts223

[Forge]

1 hour ago, SmittyBacall said:

Having no running game and no protection will do that to a QB of Kirk's caliber.

Yep. Most quarterbacks are their situation / circumstance. It's not acknowledged enough.  There are very few elite quarterbacks that can overcome their situations; that's what makes them elite. 

[smetana34]

45 minutes ago, Hukos said:

This is generally a good recipe for getting to the playoffs. This is generally not a good recipe for winning Super Bowls. Teams that win Super Bowls are often the ones running up the score and destroying their opponents by multiple touchdowns. It's not a matter of stat people liking or not liking certain teams, it's that historically, Super Bowl teams obliterate their competition into a smoldering pit of nothing every week.

You have outliers like the 2007/2011 Giants, but generally speaking, the teams that win championships are the ones destroying their competition 42-3 every week. It's not outright impossible to win a championship with a grind it out type of team, but your odds aren't looking good for it.

Yeah I'm going to need a fact or two to back this whole post up. Because from what I seem to recollect, the top offenses in the league tend to fall short come playoff time. So if you've got something, I'd love to see it. 

[RandyMossIsBoss]

It's crazy that the Packers, who have been a very good team in 2019 but certainly have not dominated for stretches like the Saints or 49ers, have a probable chance at getting the 1 seed. Only the 4th most talked about NFC team over the past month (arguably 5th), and here they are poised for 13-3 and a bye.

 

I certainly think they are a less impressive team than the 49ers and Saints, but they have the recipes for success. They play good D, control the clock, and they still have a HOFer at QB even if he hasn't looked the part.

[DannyB]

1 hour ago, Hukos said:

This is generally a good recipe for getting to the playoffs. This is generally not a good recipe for winning Super Bowls. Teams that win Super Bowls are often the ones running up the score and destroying their opponents by multiple touchdowns. It's not a matter of stat people liking or not liking certain teams, it's that historically, Super Bowl teams obliterate their competition into a smoldering pit of nothing every week.

You have outliers like the 2007/2011 Giants, but generally speaking, the teams that win championships are the ones destroying their competition 42-3 every week. It's not outright impossible to win a championship with a grind it out type of team, but your odds aren't looking good for it.

What effing league are you talking about?

[DannyB]

2 hours ago, Malfatron said:

Rodgers is the one holding us back from greatness

Totally. We just need a decent quarterback so we can finally showcase the immense greatness of elite talents such as Jake Kumerow, Allen Lazard, and Robert Tonyan.

[Uncle Buck]

3 hours ago, ITS_RAMMY_PLAYBOI said:

How can you look at cousins and say! Yeah that’s the guy I want us leading the charge? 

 

How? How? 

Yet Kirk's team is in the playoffs and Goff's is not. 

[Pugger]

3 hours ago, TENINCH said:

We were missing our best player and you were playing run defense against a 3rd stringer that got his first NFL TD last week.

Not having Cook tonight didn't help but your O line had no answers for our pass rush.  Cook most likely will be back for the post season but if your line plays like this it won't matter who your RB is.