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DoleINGout Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, Nex_Gen said: Lol they never learn. Giants will have a hell of a STs unit though... Hopefully Bill will get to trade Gostsuckski to the Giants for a fifth round pick. That would be nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, 49erurtaza said: Text from a guy...guess what, I got a text from a guy who told me that he's got this great bridge that he could sell me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Enlighten me. To a much smaller degree. If you are a DC/OC, you're having to divide your time among the different position groups. You can't be around to micromanage everything, so you show that ability to let stuff go. Judge hasn't had to do that. Or maybe ST coordinator is a way bigger job than I'm giving it credit for and I'm wrong. For one, ST coordinators do a lot more than you think they do. Their meetings have more players in them than other coordinators' meetings, they involve players from both sides of the ball, and they need to know the entire team's gameplan every week. Even more, he was the ST coordinator under Bill Belichick. Belichick actually started as the ST coordinator in NY before he was the DC. As ST coordinator, he had a hand in planning the defensive gameplan alongside Parcells, even though he didn't have 'defensive' anything in his job title. Belichick kind of carried that over to the Patriots; he has the smallest staff in the league by far, so every guy has a hand in just about everything. Judge actually had more responsibilities than an average coordinator- he was in charge of the entire special teams, the wide receivers, and whatever else Bill wanted his input on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, minutemancl said: For one, ST coordinators do a lot more than you think they do. Their meetings have more players in them than other coordinators' meetings, they involve players from both sides of the ball, and they need to know the entire team's gameplan every week. Even more, he was the ST coordinator under Bill Belichick. Belichick actually started as the ST coordinator in NY before he was the DC. As ST coordinator, he had a hand in planning the defensive gameplan alongside Parcells, even though he didn't have 'defensive' anything in his job title. Belichick kind of carried that over to the Patriots; he has the smallest staff in the league by far, so every guy has a hand in just about everything. Judge actually had more responsibilities than an average coordinator- he was in charge of the entire special teams, the wide receivers, and whatever else Bill wanted his input on. Judge also has knowledge on both sides of the ball. So it's not like he has no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 And this with whom you wanna place your faith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 All jokes aside gotta give the guy a chance to prove himself. Can’t be a 2 year thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, minutemancl said: For one, ST coordinators do a lot more than you think they do. Their meetings have more players in them than other coordinators' meetings, they involve players from both sides of the ball, and they need to know the entire team's gameplan every week. Even more, he was the ST coordinator under Bill Belichick. Belichick actually started as the ST coordinator in NY before he was the DC. As ST coordinator, he had a hand in planning the defensive gameplan alongside Parcells, even though he didn't have 'defensive' anything in his job title. Belichick kind of carried that over to the Patriots; he has the smallest staff in the league by far, so every guy has a hand in just about everything. Judge actually had more responsibilities than an average coordinator- he was in charge of the entire special teams, the wide receivers, and whatever else Bill wanted his input on. Fair enough, that's a bigger job than I would have given it credit for based on the title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Fair enough, that's a bigger job than I would have given it credit for based on the title. You're not the only one who thinks that- the only reason Harbaugh and Judge even got interviews is because they took on other jobs as well. Harbaugh became DB coach, Judge WR coach. ST coordinators are severely overlooked by everyone. At the very least, it is an interesting and intriguing hiring. Nobody knows this guy and no one knows how it is going to turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: All jokes aside gotta give the guy a chance to prove himself. Can’t be a 2 year thing. Oh, I think you certainly have to give him a chance, but I'm not sure he'll get a fair chance at success with that GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray Reed said: Based on what, though? Every year on this forum, people call the relatively unknown hires out as failures, and always get behind the big-time, well-known coordinator hires. You would think by now people would have learned that a big name a good coach does not make. This. It's laughable. Nobody knows anything about Joe Judge lol Nobody here should have any strong opinion on this hire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Wasn't Jon Harbaugh a ST coordinator when he was hired by the Ravens? Worked out pretty well for them I think. Edited January 7, 2020 by MaximusGluteus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, KingOfTheDot said: And this with whom you wanna place your faith? I read this with Jay-Z’s voice lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, ET80 said: That's exactly what I am saying. Put in an extra two W against a bottom feeder in another division (beating up on the likes of the Raiders, Lions, Jets, etc) and maybe a few wins against other middle ground teams and you have a string of 9-7 seasons. Texans didn't cross that 10+ win mark until Watson showed up. Oh, so outside of his division he was still hovering somewhere in the .500 range? Doesnt sound like an awful HC. Sounds like a mediocre one. 1 hour ago, ET80 said: I get that, but trying to argue over shades of grey at this point is semantics. Ok, he's not literally the worst HC in the NFL. But he's closer to Hue Jackson than he is to Vince Lombardi. Out of 32 HCs, he is closer to #16 than #1 or #32. Hence, mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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