FrantikRam Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, lancerman said: Winston was terrible with great weapons. Brady was significantly better with his number 1 WR being injured enough to need surgery and a Corp that led the league in drops. Brady also had a very good offensive line while Winston had a below average offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: Brady also had a very good offensive line while Winston had a below average offensive line. Brady Played most of the season with a back up LT and back up center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: Brady also had a very good offensive line while Winston had a below average offensive line. And you need to have people to throw to for stats to look good. Winston had people open. Brady didn’t. And also you are being disengenous. Brady’s starting center missed the whole season with a blood clot. His starting tackle missed a huge chunk of the season on IR. Then Newhouse who was arguably the worst lineman in the league git significant playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie89 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Brady is a now below-average QB who has had a HOF career. NFC South is solid, and significantly better as a division than the AFC East has been. NFC North has three tough teams (Packers, Vikings, and Bears) and AFC West has the Chiefs plus three other competitive teams. Tampa's strength has been throwing down the field, which has been Brady's weakness at this point in his career. I don't see any better than 8-8 to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, lancerman said: And you need to have people to throw to for stats to look good. Winston had people open. Brady didn’t. And also you are being disengenous. Brady’s starting center missed the whole season with a blood clot. His starting tackle missed a huge chunk of the season on IR. Then Newhouse who was arguably the worst lineman in the league git significant playing time. And despite all that, the Patriots offensive line was better than the Bucs. I'd love to see a stat that says otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudeMorrigan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: And despite all that, the Patriots offensive line was better than the Bucs. I'd love to see a stat that says otherwise. I'm inclined to believe that Winston's underrated ability to move in the pocket contributed, but the team's offensive line was better at pass blocking than they typically got credit for: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensive-line-rankings-following-2019-regular-season If you prefer rawer stats, Winston's time-to-throw was actually better last season than Brady's: https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing Their run blocking was hot trash though, I'll grant you. Edited March 18, 2020 by JudeMorrigan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizofoz45 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Belicheat is busy scheming his retirement press conference. I'm sure it'll be another masterpiece. Brady in the NFC is highly amusing at first glance but his injury luck is going to run out. He's been productive with so many different (and often average) players I'm sure he can put up quality numbers if healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 19 hours ago, DoleINGout said: You’re an incredibly narrow minded person and a Tom Brady hater for God only knows why. That's not being narrow minded. You're a butthurt New England fan who's depressed now since your "savior" is gone. Not a Tom Brady hater either. He literally has no chance of winning the Super Bowl ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, RamblinMan99 said: That's not being narrow minded. You're a butthurt New England fan who's depressed now since your "savior" is gone. Not a Tom Brady hater either. He literally has no chance of winning the Super Bowl ever again. What do you mean the savior is gone? Belichick is still the head coach and Robert Kraft is still the owner. If anything I have been invigorated by this Brady move. I am super excited for him. I think it was the best possible decision for him, the Patriots, and the Buccaneers. The chances of the Buccaneers and Tom Brady winning the Super Bowl went up because they joined forces. Maybe if Brady had stayed in New England his chances of winning another Super Bowl were lower... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 hours ago, FrantikRam said: Brady also had a very good offensive line while Winston had a below average offensive line. Bucs OL gave Winston more time to throw than the Patriots this year by a half second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I don't know why people don't think he's going to do well this season, he had pretty mediocre, decent stats last season whilst ""declining"" with poor receiving corps, he has Mike Evans and Chris Godwin now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Evans and Godwin can make up for a half *** decline, Brady will need to have completely fallen off a cliff to not be productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehops Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, indifference said: Bucs OL gave Winston more time to throw than the Patriots this year by a half second. do you mean winston held on to the ball a half second longer than brady? as in average time to throw? because brady has always gotten the ball out of his hands quickly. average time to pressure would be a better indicator imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Can’t wait for the first Buc vs Saint game. - Division Rivals - Two Best Teams in the division (opinion) - Brady vs Brees (two legends) - Payton vs Arians (two greats) Should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I think the move will reinvigorate Brady ala Favre in MInn I mean he's basically a rookie in a new lockeroom who is the Bucs OC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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