Mox Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) You've gotta love politicians. Look at this stimulus package proposal. • No voter ID to get a ballot, & anonymous “ballot harvesting” • $300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 148• $10,000 per person for student loan bailout pg 618• $100,000,000 to Nasa• $20,000,000,000 to the USPS• $300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts • $300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities• $15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training • $435,000,000 for mental health support • $30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund• $200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program• $300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting • $500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries • $720,000,000 to Social Security Admin • 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs• $25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building• $7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries• $35,000,000 to the JFK Center for performing Arts• $25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives• $3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA• $315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs• $95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development• $300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance• $90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148• $13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121• 9,000,000 Misc Senate Expenses pg 134• $100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162 T• $40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act. Pg 164• $1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163• $25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165• $492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167• $526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress• $25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169• $3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172• $5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172• $2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175• $5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175• $2,500,000 Office of Housing https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/COVIDSUPP3_xml.pdf Edited March 24, 2020 by Bullet Club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: There are some device folks in Poland who figured out how to make them with simple, available parts and 3D printing. They are sharing the instructions globally. I have no idea if this is viable or not, but know this: the world is working on this 24/7 https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/poland-ventilaid-open-source-3d-printed-ventilator/ What materials are they printed with? Are those plastics prone to toxic offgasing? What is the predicted lifetime of the valve? They definitely aren't sterile, how do you sterilizing them? I doubt a 3D printer can print a surface finish fine enough to be usable. Has the packaging been cleaned and validated? No way hospitals can use those. Malpractice lawsuits are still a thing. It takes yeeears to introduce a new medical device to production, or even for an existing device to be approved from a new manufacturing facility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, mistakey said: all of india locked down i just find it funny that you think you know more than the experts in this field and can call out their so called incompetence No, I'm just actually reading the research and listening to what real experts are saying / looking at data Rather than watching CNN all day hearing a siren outside and pooping my pants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, theJ said: (also, are you talking just US, or worldwide?) US deaths, following a 33% daily growth rate for 21 days. And yes, hopefully we did enough to stave off the spread. But we really don’t know if we did yet. And when you now have people like my state’s lieutenant governor saying that we should just stop trying and go back to normal and let people die to save the economy, there’s legitimate concern that we won’t keep up with it long enough to see it bear fruit. Edited March 24, 2020 by pwny 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, pwny said: US deaths, following a 33% daily growth rate for 21 days. And yes, hopefully we did enough to stave off the spread. But we really don’t know if we did yet. And when you now have people my state’s lieutenant governor saying that we should just stop trying and go back to normal and let people die to save the economy, there’s legitimate concern that we won’t keep up with it long enough to see it bear fruit. Gotcha. And yes, that would be a bad idea. The damage economically has already been done. May as well let it ride another couple of weeks and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holt_bruce81 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Blah, read today that a woman in her 30's in my hometown died yesterday from the virus. No pre-existing medical conditions. Kinda scary. Edited March 24, 2020 by holt_bruce81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 My county finally got access to tests on Friday; and still only were able to do 3 on Friday. They still have to send them off for testing elsewhere. They got back their first positive result today. I’m assuming it was from one tested on Friday. So we’ll see what happens with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, mission27 said: No, I'm just actually reading the research and listening to what real experts are saying / looking at data Rather than watching CNN all day hearing a siren outside and pooping my pants ah yes the real experts that u think are dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, mission27 said: Yep its only good news if we have the health care capacity to deal iwth it, otherwise we will look more like hubei and italy than the outer chinese provinces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, mistakey said: ah yes the real experts that u think are dumb We don't need comments like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: We don't need comments like this. yeah, except for the post in which he said this, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, mistakey said: ah yes the real experts that u think are dumb Admittedly I do the same thing, but that's just because the only way I understand stuff is to at least try and make a back of the hand approximation to re-do the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, mistakey said: yeah, except for the post in which he said this, so... You’re being a butthead. Mission isn’t. That’s the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, Outpost31 said: You’re being a butthead. Mission isn’t. That’s the difference. ok bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 The ICU has received instructions on how to use a single ventilator for 4 patients provided they are all roughly the same size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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