Jlowe22 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, PFM18 said: None. Pretty sure Irsay still wants us to be a winning team. Irsay's definition of winning team must be the same as Benson's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 hard to trade a guy that can't even physically throw right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM18 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 14 hours ago, Jlowe22 said: Irsay's definition of winning team must be the same as Benson's. I think it would be. I think Irsay's the kind of owner who would stick by Luck even it the team around him degenerated in quality. I said last week that New Orleans should look to start again and rebuild. Others have been saying it should have happened a few seasons ago. But thinking about it I can see why Benson is reluctant to cut ties with Brees and move on. Brees still plays at a top level, even though the team around him can't stop teams scoring, Brees gives you a chance of victory. As easy as it is to say trade Drew Brees, get some value for him whilst he still can and rebuild the team, we all know how hard it is to find a franchise QB in this league. It'must be so difficult to let go. The only reason we let Manning go was we had the Number 1 pick and took a QB who had one of the highest projections to be NFL quality in a long time. Ironically we're in a very similar position this season. Franchise QB is injured, don't know when he's coming back and there's QB's coming into the draft with high projections to be NFL quality. There's even been media speculation that we'll sit Andrew Luck for the season and go for the tank to see if we can't pick up a Darnold or a Rosen. Don't think we would do that. I do think when Luck's fit he will play. If we do end up with an early pick that could be used for a QB I think we'd be very open to trade offers. If New Orleans get that same early pick though I do think would be the trigger to start afresh. Can't see the Saints turning down the opportunity to take their next franchise QB and rebuilding the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 17 hours ago, PFM18 said: I think it would be. I think Irsay's the kind of owner who would stick by Luck even it the team around him degenerated in quality. I said last week that New Orleans should look to start again and rebuild. Others have been saying it should have happened a few seasons ago. But thinking about it I can see why Benson is reluctant to cut ties with Brees and move on. Brees still plays at a top level, even though the team around him can't stop teams scoring, Brees gives you a chance of victory. As easy as it is to say trade Drew Brees, get some value for him whilst he still can and rebuild the team, we all know how hard it is to find a franchise QB in this league. It'must be so difficult to let go. The only reason we let Manning go was we had the Number 1 pick and took a QB who had one of the highest projections to be NFL quality in a long time. Ironically we're in a very similar position this season. Franchise QB is injured, don't know when he's coming back and there's QB's coming into the draft with high projections to be NFL quality. There's even been media speculation that we'll sit Andrew Luck for the season and go for the tank to see if we can't pick up a Darnold or a Rosen. Don't think we would do that. I do think when Luck's fit he will play. If we do end up with an early pick that could be used for a QB I think we'd be very open to trade offers. If New Orleans get that same early pick though I do think would be the trigger to start afresh. Can't see the Saints turning down the opportunity to take their next franchise QB and rebuilding the team. It is kind of funny to use Brees as an example. San Diego dumped him because, there were doubts he would ever be effective again after I believe, a serious shoulder injury, so they traded him to NO, who was desperate enough to take a chance and wanted Eli, but he did not want them, so they settled for Philip Rivers. I guess it is the doctor's call as they usually tell the GM/owner what are Luck's chances for ever returning to top form. Most GM's at least, let the doctor make the call. Of course, we really do not know Luck's chances for a full recovery, we are not privy to that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 1sts and a 2nd? What exactly has he done to deserve that? He was an injury concern it seemed before this major issue. No chance he goes for that much but also don't see him being traded anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotsWin! Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 There's 0% chance of that happening. I like Brisset but he's strictly a backup QB. Indi needs Luck if they want to be legitimate contenders long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Stallyns Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Iamcanadian said: It is kind of funny to use Brees as an example. San Diego dumped him because, there were doubts he would ever be effective again after I believe, a serious shoulder injury, so they traded him to NO, who was desperate enough to take a chance and wanted Eli, but he did not want them, so they settled for Philip Rivers. I guess it is the doctor's call as they usually tell the GM/owner what are Luck's chances for ever returning to top form. Most GM's at least, let the doctor make the call. Of course, we really do not know Luck's chances for a full recovery, we are not privy to that information. Actually your timeline is off, Brees started for 2 seasons while Rivers was there and was actually franchised the second year before leaving in FA. The shoulder injury was in the last game of the season. He nearly signed with Miami but he didn’t pass the physical. New Orleans I believe waived the physical and signed him site unseen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 If I were them I'd do it. Brisset is a beast, better than Garapolo, and would not have been traded except Brady is playing at least 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Heck no. Looking at the Colts without only reinforces how good Luck is. You keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 They would only trade him if the Doctors told them, he would never be the same player again and they held the 1st or 2nd overall pick in this year's draft. Draft say, Rosen and get a 2nd for a damaged Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 / 10 368 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 No. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/24/2017 at 11:27 AM, JaguarCrazy2832 said: 3 1sts and a 2nd? What exactly has he done to deserve that? He was an injury concern it seemed before this major issue. No chance he goes for that much but also don't see him being traded anyways Trade value doesn't always equate to what someone has done on the field. You get enough people / teams who believe in him and it just becomes a auction. There would be multiple teams that would be interested in his services, and quite a few I would imagine that would pay dearly for him (provided his health checked out and he was okay). Quarterbacks are a premium, and even though you could argue he hasn't lived up to the hype of his prospect status, people would go crazy trying to obtain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, childofpudding said: No. No chance. Ok Vince McMahon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Forge said: Trade value doesn't always equate to what someone has done on the field. You get enough people / teams who believe in him and it just becomes a auction. There would be multiple teams that would be interested in his services, and quite a few I would imagine that would pay dearly for him (provided his health checked out and he was okay). Quarterbacks are a premium, and even though you could argue he hasn't lived up to the hype of his prospect status, people would go crazy trying to obtain him. What bidding war? How many teams would be willing to take that? I mean he hasnt lived up to the hype yes but he is also a major injury concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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