Apparition Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Let's face it, he was absolutely putrid last year - to the degree that many observers wrote the former #1 overall pick off as a lost cause after less than a full season starting. Through 3 games this year he's one of the league's top 3 passers, leading all QBs in Y/A, NY/A and ANY/A, and 3rd in passer rating behind Alex Smith and Tom Brady. So what's different? Is it mostly scheme-based or has Goff markedly improved in his own right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Scheme + Additional Skill Position Talent (Watkins + Woods + Kupp + Everett) + General progression from Year 1 to Year 2 + Improved OL (Miss you Whit). Defenses will adjust though. Should really know what he's made of the last 6 games of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Better coaching and talent around him are big factors. He's definitely playing better - looking off defenders, going through progressions. That's stuff that will help him out once defenses begin to adjust. I don't know how good he is or will be, but I think that there's definitely a level of this that is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's amazing what you can do when you're not being coached by Jeff Fisher and don't have at best a bottom three if not the worst WR group in the NFL. Right Sam Bradford and Case Keenum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Sean McVay is a pretty good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Crickett said: It's amazing what you can do when you're not being coached by Jeff Fisher and don't have at best a bottom three if not the worst WR group in the NFL. Right Sam Bradford and Case Keenum? McNair must be the GOAT then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 It's a combination of several things: Significant coaching upgrades, personal improvement and upgraded talent. Every time I listened to Goff talk during the off-season, he was always accountable. He had so many outs last season (rookie year, poor coaching, poor offensive line, WR's dropping passes, etc) and never mentioned any of it as an excuse. Upgrades at offensive line have been big and the WR talent added has been absurd. Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp - It's ridiculous to improve an entire WR corps in just one off-season that much. He's been great vs the Colts and Niners and played decently vs the Redskins. I really believe in Goff and I'm sure he will continue to impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, ttitansfan4life said: McNair must be the GOAT then. He's not the GOAT, but he is one of the best QB's I've ever seen play (late 90's up until now). McNair was mind-blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanLegend Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well in regards to Jeff Fisher/McNair, Fisher was also one of the top tier coaches in football in McNair's prime stretch as starter. 7-2 vs Tom Coughlin 7-2 vs Bill Cowher 1-1 vs Bill Belichick 2-0 vs Andy Reid 4-2 vs Tony Dungy 2-0 vs Jon Gruden The only real winning coach he struggled with was Brian Billick. But anyway this isn't a Jeff Fisher thread. Goff was garbage last year and looks serviceable this season. From what I've watched I haven't been blown away, but he at least looks like a starting NFL QB. Bill Walsh I think said you don't know what you have in a QB until 20(I think it was 20 anyway) starts in, so he's got some time to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Simple size too small but he did improve from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footbull3196 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Are we going to completely ignore the fact that Goff's faced a couple of putrid defenses and a middle of the pack defense? Im happy to see he's playing well and this will definitely build some confidence, but get back to me after he faces the Seahawks in Week 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Are you trying to insinuate that Jeff Fisher wasn't able to groom a young quarterback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 33 minutes ago, footbull3196 said: Are we going to completely ignore the fact that Goff's faced a couple of putrid defenses and a middle of the pack defense? Im happy to see he's playing well and this will definitely build some confidence, but get back to me after he faces the Seahawks in Week 5 I was going to mention this. I have enjoyed watching him play the two games I did see, and he looked much more comfortable. Can't wait to see him play the Seahawks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 He's certainly better than he was last year, but I'll bet dollars to donuts that this level of success doesn't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 36 minutes ago, Danger said: He's certainly better than he was last year, but I'll bet dollars to donuts that this level of success doesn't last. I'll take this bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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