BayRaider Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, Drained said: this is like ramblinman with more effort Ramblin is usually much more rude, but I'd argue Neptune is much farther gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 hours ago, rocky_rams said: We’re gonna have to agree to disagree here and see what happens in the next few years. You’re mistaken, I never said not having too mechanics disqualifies you from being a good QB. Both Lamar and Rivers are very good QBs. I said in order to be a great QB you absolutely need the fundamentals down. Side note: Rivers throwing motion isn’t as bad as Lamar’s drops, mechanically speaking. Footwork is more important than throwing motions. This is what I am talking about. you value mechanics over production/ability and then go on to create an argument based on a scenario where you take away a trait from a player (Lamar couldn't win without his athleticism which Wilson/Rodgers/Mahomes could). That would be the same as creating a scenario where Mahomes suddenly isn't the same player because he doesn't have his current arm strength. You are just derailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamedayGuru Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/article_2611a950-098d-11eb-9881-67e2e740e49f.html At least Vegas gets it that kamara should be the only RB in the top 10 for mvp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Danand said: This is what I am talking about. you value mechanics over production/ability and then go on to create an argument based on a scenario where you take away a trait from a player (Lamar couldn't win without his athleticism which Wilson/Rodgers/Mahomes could). That would be the same as creating a scenario where Mahomes suddenly isn't the same player because he doesn't have his current arm strength. You are just derailed. Let’s revisit this convo in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 1:49 PM, incognito_man said: Thread needs more Jay Cutler @malak1 If I could pimp Cutler I would 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearerofnews Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 10:16 AM, NeptunePenguins said: This is 2020 and 2020 is the year of the talent. Brady is the exception to the rule this year, but 2020 is the year of talent. Mahomes, Rodgers, and Wilson have more talent today than the QBs in the 2010s. In the 2010s only one elite QB had talent and that was Aaron Rodgers. Brady, and Brees had a little bit talent, but not all that much. Peyton Manning had no talent at all in the 2010s, but had a lot in his old stinky 2004 days. Yeah 2004 Manning could throw a football, but 2013 Manning threw 55 TDs without talent. 1990s QBs had a lot of talent just like today. Favre had talent, Marino had talent, Elway had talent, and Young had talent. Only Montana lacked talent somewhat, but he still had more talent than 2013 Manning and a little bit more than Brees. Each decade is a test to see if the dominant QBs have talent or not. Talent didn't matter much in the late 2000s, but these days the best QBs have talent. It is the 1990s all over again. I don't think you have any idea what talent means 🤣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Josh Allen has a huge chance to take this over, if they manage to play that game, right? Pat lost his first game, Wilson is losing now, and even if he comes back being shutout through a half definitely looks rough. Rodgers on a bye, so he won't fall back but can't step up either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Rodgers is probably it this game goes the way it has. This always happens to Wilson. He had a few stinkers that allow someone else to grasp it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, lancerman said: Rodgers is probably it this game goes the way it has. This always happens to Wilson. He had a few stinkers that allow someone else to grasp it It's the worst when they're nationally televised games. People remember those a good bit longer, IMO. The rest they just know by statline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, lancerman said: Rodgers is probably it this game goes the way it has. This always happens to Wilson. He had a few stinkers that allow someone else to grasp it If Seahawks win and Wilson finishes strong, he’s probably still the #1 with Rodgers on a bye. Have to see what Allen can do on Tuesday as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 This gonna be a weird and hard week... Wilson playing meh, on the verge of losing, Rodgers on a bye, Mahomes and Brady lost and both looked kind of average, man. Doesn’t mean the list is gonna look much different, might look almost exactly the same, but gotta go over everything with a fine comb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Wilson still #1. Still undefeated and a phenomenal final drive. 94 yards in 2 minutes. Will have list up after Bills game on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Wow. Wilson is definitely still #1 after that drive! Sheesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Wilson still #1. Still undefeated and a phenomenal final drive. 94 yards in 2 minutes Thats the crap part. Dude threw a horrible interception that was 1/4 yard of being the game ending decision just for MN to screw it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Jakuvious said: Josh Allen has a huge chance to take this over, if they manage to play that game, right? Pat lost his first game, Wilson is losing now, and even if he comes back being shutout through a half definitely looks rough. Rodgers on a bye, so he won't fall back but can't step up either. this didn't age well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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