ronjon1990 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Yes I get it you're wrong and making things up. 113 of Carr's 303 passes went to one of the top 3 WRs for more than 12.5 yards avg but you insist that he doesn't like throwing the ball deep to the WRs. I never said anything close to that. Not only do you not understand how contracts or averages work, you don't seem to grasp how forums work and apparently believe it's just you and, what, a screen? Luckily enough, air yardage is a recorded stat. As it currently stands, Carr's average depth per attempt to his top 4 receivers is 11.45 yds, bouyed by Ruggs's 16.6. He's 4th in targets by a pretty good amount. Without the low targets boosting the average, it dips to 9.7 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Watching this tony dungy interview and they asked him what the most difficult thing about coaching losing teams? he said keeping people as team players and not just go for self and pad their own stats to keep their legacy intact. Very Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 20 hours ago, big_palooka said: The Oline is being paid 2nd most in the league, but the Raider can't get them on the field together. That's a problem. Completely agree with that. Doesn't change what happened this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true2form Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/22/2020 at 10:39 AM, SimonGruber said: I thought it was Carr had nobody to throw to last year beside Waller more than Jacobs That was the Carr "excuse". I'm talking about the other side where it was Jacobs "team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) https://www.instagram.com/p/CJLh5wBBjBk/?igshid=1gddr47tmfafq link won’t post but it’s a pff carr trade idea Edited December 24, 2020 by NCOUGHMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJLh5wBBjBk/?igshid=1gddr47tmfafq link won’t post but it’s a pff carr trade idea We’d be the dumbest team in the world not to accept that. However, there is zero chance Indy would offer such a dumb trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 3:16 PM, NCOUGHMAN said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJLh5wBBjBk/?igshid=1gddr47tmfafq link won’t post but it’s a pff carr trade idea If Mariota balls out the last 2 games and shows he can elevate Gruden's system I am listening. Without that I am holding onto Carr. If Mariota sucks and we do not have Carr this year we are probably drafting top 5. There are a few stopgap options in FA and we could draft his replacement but we would have a high chance of having a very bad year next year. I think the time for Gruden to get rid of Carr without a proven replacement would have been after year 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agarcia34 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Would need to be a first this year and a second this year and next years 3rd. Colts first round pick will be so late that it would need to be this years second to make up for it. Not saying I would trade Carr, but thats what it would take so dont come at me Carr fanatics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: Would need to be a first this year and a second this year and next years 3rd. Colts first round pick will be so late that it would need to be this years second to make up for it. Not saying I would trade Carr, but thats what it would take so dont come at me Carr fanatics I'd take a 2021 1st and 2nd and a 2022 3rd. Like you, I think that's what it would take, and that's depending on the desperation of my trade partner. Trading a proven commodity, arguably in his prime, I would expect Mayock and Gruden to orchestrate some highway robbery before parting ways with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: I'm glad we didn't budge back then. Now that we have had a taste of a different QB, I'd listen a bit more. That said, I would say Carr's value has probably gone up this year. I feel like Carr and Belichick would be a dangerous duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Carr holds a lot of trade value and you throw in his contract makes him more valuable. I don't think the Raiders would trade him this offseason. I think they go after the defense and give it one more run with Carr. MM you should be able to trade away. Was hoping we would get 2 more games to up that trade value. Pats offense has always been about the short game. Carr would have fit in perfectly with the system cause it wouldn't ask him to do things that make him uncomfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG_C2X Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 hour ago, agarcia34 said: This is why Gruden and Mayock run a franchise and you idiots post on a message board. Thank God we didn't take that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OG_C2X Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 6:17 PM, BayRaider said: We’d be the dumbest team in the world not to accept that. However, there is zero chance Indy would offer such a dumb trade. Lol you're a dumb a$$. That is not even close to enough for Carr. Maybe 2 first and a second and I would consider it. But even then no thanks Picks in the 20s aren't where you find a replacement and the colts are the best team in the AFC with Carr under center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, OG_C2X said: This is why Gruden and Mayock run a franchise and you idiots post on a message board. Thank God we didn't take that trade. Can you not slander and generalize every member please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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