ET80 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Malik said: I mean Dwight Howard is a hall of famer so he is an all time great and at one point was one of the 5 best players in the NBA. Clowney was never in the discussion for best players at his position. I admittedly don't watch much basketball, only know a bit about Howard during his Rockets tenure no less... I forget he was an incredibly dominant figure elsewhere. Clowney WAS a two time All Pro, so there was a time where he was going well... But he's most definitely not a HoF guy. (I didn't think Howard was either, but what do I know?) So, would "Dwight Howard during his Rockets tenure" be a better comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: I admittedly don't watch much basketball, only know a bit about Howard during his Rockets tenure no less... I forget he was an incredibly dominant figure elsewhere. Clowney WAS a two time All Pro, so there was a time where he was going well... But he's most definitely not a HoF guy. (I didn't think Howard was either, but what do I know?) So, would "Dwight Howard during his Rockets tenure" be a better comparison? You could expand it to Dwight Howard since he left the magic honestly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 hours ago, ET80 said: I admittedly don't watch much basketball, only know a bit about Howard during his Rockets tenure no less... I forget he was an incredibly dominant figure elsewhere. Clowney WAS a two time All Pro, so there was a time where he was going well... But he's most definitely not a HoF guy. (I didn't think Howard was either, but what do I know?) So, would "Dwight Howard during his Rockets tenure" be a better comparison? Clowney is probably closer to Andrew Bynum, if you’re looking for the physical presence that doesn’t have the technique and polish to dominate like people think he could have developed into. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, pwny said: Clowney is probably closer to Andrew Bynum, if you’re looking for the physical presence that doesn’t have the technique and polish to dominate like people think he could have developed into. That's a much better one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, pwny said: Clowney is probably closer to Andrew Bynum, if you’re looking for the physical presence that doesn’t have the technique and polish to dominate like people think he could have developed into. I consistently forget Bynum existed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hope- Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 On 12/6/2020 at 6:52 PM, wackywabbit said: Well that sounds like a good reason to have a 5th year option 😉 this is a hindsight being 20/20 thing imo. davis was coming off a pretty whatever season, i think most fans saw not exercising the option as totally reasonable and didn't expect to want to re-sign him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, -Hope- said: this is a hindsight being 20/20 thing imo. davis was coming off a pretty whatever season, i think most fans saw not exercising the option as totally reasonable and didn't expect to want to re-sign him. Fair enough. I haven't consistently watched him and the production wasn't there, especially last year. He's looking now like a guy with his tools should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The hype for him coming out of college was insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Sorry for the tangent, but how has Clowney managed to not make even one sack all season long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 hours ago, ILoveTheVikings said: Sorry for the tangent, but how has Clowney managed to not make even one sack all season long? Where there's a will there's a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 1:13 AM, NudeTayne said: Where there's a will there's a way. In this case, where there's a lack of will there's a way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 8:02 PM, ILoveTheVikings said: Sorry for the tangent, but how has Clowney managed to not make even one sack all season long? Combination of substandard play from him (he actually did have some impactful games, just no sacks) and a horrible, horrible pass coverage unit. If a QB's first read is wide open 90% of the time, hard to get sacks from anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/14/2020 at 3:53 PM, Daniel said: Combination of substandard play from him (he actually did have some impactful games, just no sacks) and a horrible, horrible pass coverage unit. If a QB's first read is wide open 90% of the time, hard to get sacks from anyone. agree about this . However, if he had JJ Watt in his prime on the other side, what would you expect his stat line to be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rivers said: agree about this . However, if he had JJ Watt in his prime on the other side, what would you expect his stat line to be ? I'd argue it still depends on the coverage on the back end. Clowney's best season as a pro came when JJ Watt was injured - but AJ Bouye was in the middle of his breakout season as a #1 CB. So, that kept that first read silent long enough for Clowney to get past his blocker. Even then, the issue was that he didn't finish plays enough. He's pursue and get pressure, but he never really got sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 I’d still want him in Cleveland. We need athletic DEs playing Baltimore. It’s just Myles getting double teamed every play right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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