THE DUKE Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 How many plays are you asking your RB to run away from everyone in a season? 3? 4? That 10 yard split showing elite acceleration is far more important 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) still can't find any arm length for Zaven. I'm guessing they are around 33" to 34", but would be nice to know Edited April 3, 2021 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeezla said: still can't find any arm length for Zaven. I'm guessing they are around 33" to 34", but would be nice to know I’m still looking for Darrisaw I think his were also in that 33” range but I’m not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Scoundrel said: Darrisaw’s arm length what was it? JOK has small hands but he has as long of arms as Slater. So he can hopefully use this to an advantage to keep blockers away from his small frame. He should be okay. I think JOK will be used comparably to Jeremy Chinn with slight positional variations. I would anticipate him being a free blitzer most of the time, when going after the QB. I don't expect him to be responsible for a C-gap to C-gap coverage in the run game much either (if at all). Blitzing edge (how Jamal Adams gets used sometimes), overhang money backer, slot defender in short zones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: I’m still looking for Darrisaw I think his were also in that 33” range but I’m not sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeezla said: Thank you I have been trying to find it everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinebackerGod Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Forge said: He should be okay. I think JOK will be used comparably to Jeremy Chinn with slight positional variations. I would anticipate him being a free blitzer most of the time, when going after the QB. I don't expect him to be responsible for a C-gap to C-gap coverage in the run game much either (if at all). Blitzing edge (how Jamal Adams gets used sometimes), overhang money backer, slot defender in short zones. He’s gonna be a dynamic STAR in a 4-3/Nickel. Leave him there and watch him thrive. None of this B.S. rolling him back to true deep safety crap I’ve heard. He’s a linebacker that can play over WRs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 21 hours ago, THE DUKE said: How many plays are you asking your RB to run away from everyone in a season? 3? 4? That 10 yard split showing elite acceleration is far more important Emmitt Smith ran a 4.55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, TVScout said: Emmitt Smith ran a 4.55. I’m honestly surprised it was that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownLeader Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 23 hours ago, Jeezla said: still can't find any arm length for Zaven. I'm guessing they are around 33" to 34", but would be nice to know I read 33.4 but can't find the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzy Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 9 hours ago, goldfishwars said: He did play RB basically at UCLA and in the NFL is just a weapon potentially out of the backfield. Sure could be a slot WR but with how hard he was to cover at the senior bowl doubt this will matter much depending on if a team wants him as a weapon out of the backfield. Did not see these numbers but honestly, might be some errors coming out of Duke's pro day, look at these times.... Michael Carter II DB Height: 5-9 5/8 Weight: 184 Hand: 9 5/8 Arm: 29 1/8 Wingspan: 72 6/8 Bench Press: 13 Vertical Jump: 35.5 Broad Jump: N/A 40-Yard Dash: 4.30 Short Shuttle: 4.44 3-Cone Drill: 6.81 Mark Gilbert CB Height: 6-0 1/8 Weight: 186 Hand: 8 6/8 Arm: 31 2/8 Wingspan: 76 2/8 Bench Press: 13 Vertical Jump: 36.0 Broad Jump: 10.10 40-Yard Dash: 4.36 Short Shuttle: 4.27 3-Cone Drill: 6.96 Noah Gray TE Height: 6-3 Weight: 240 Hand: 9 2/8 Arm: 31 5/8 Wingspan: 78 2/8 Bench Press: 15 Vertical Jump: 35.0 Broad Jump: 9.7 40-Yard Dash: 4.52 Short Shuttle: 4.30 3-Cone Drill: 6.72 Deon Jackson RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 218 Hand: 9 2/8 Arm: 30 2/8 Wingspan: 73 2/8 Bench Press: 18 Vertical Jump: 36.0 Broad Jump: 10.3 40-Yard Dash: 4.32 Short Shuttle: 4.50 3-Cone Drill: 7.09 Deon Jackson 4.32 speed as a 5-11 218 pound back, or those two DBs with 4.3 speed? I like Gilbert but does have an awful injury history. I like Gray a lot and if that time is legit that is very good for a TE, and he had a better 3 cone than the defensive backs here? These other guys I am not super familiar with but those are some very good times if they are true. If they are legit talk about getting little to no press for very good times for some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Ozzy said: He did play RB basically at UCLA and in the NFL is just a weapon potentially out of the backfield. Sure could be a slot WR but with how hard he was to cover at the senior bowl doubt this will matter much depending on if a team wants him as a weapon out of the backfield. Did not see these numbers but honestly, might be some errors coming out of Duke's pro day, look at these times.... Michael Carter II DB Height: 5-9 5/8 Weight: 184 Hand: 9 5/8 Arm: 29 1/8 Wingspan: 72 6/8 Bench Press: 13 Vertical Jump: 35.5 Broad Jump: N/A 40-Yard Dash: 4.30 Short Shuttle: 4.44 3-Cone Drill: 6.81 Mark Gilbert CB Height: 6-0 1/8 Weight: 186 Hand: 8 6/8 Arm: 31 2/8 Wingspan: 76 2/8 Bench Press: 13 Vertical Jump: 36.0 Broad Jump: 10.10 40-Yard Dash: 4.36 Short Shuttle: 4.27 3-Cone Drill: 6.96 Noah Gray TE Height: 6-3 Weight: 240 Hand: 9 2/8 Arm: 31 5/8 Wingspan: 78 2/8 Bench Press: 15 Vertical Jump: 35.0 Broad Jump: 9.7 40-Yard Dash: 4.52 Short Shuttle: 4.30 3-Cone Drill: 6.72 Deon Jackson RB Height: 5-11 Weight: 218 Hand: 9 2/8 Arm: 30 2/8 Wingspan: 73 2/8 Bench Press: 18 Vertical Jump: 36.0 Broad Jump: 10.3 40-Yard Dash: 4.32 Short Shuttle: 4.50 3-Cone Drill: 7.09 Deon Jackson 4.32 speed as a 5-11 218 pound back, or those two DBs with 4.3 speed? I like Gilbert but does have an awful injury history. I like Gray a lot and if that time is legit that is very good for a TE, and he had a better 3 cone than the defensive backs here? These other guys I am not super familiar with but those are some very good times if they are true. If they are legit talk about getting little to no press for very good times for some of them. Those 40s aren't believable. Noah Gray doesn't look anywhere near that athletic on film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Those 40s aren't believable. Noah Gray doesn't look anywhere near that athletic on film. Overall yeah most likely those are not accurate times. But Noah Gray I think could run a 4.6 no problem, early in the season against Notre Dame and BC Gray played very well and showed a good amount of explosive playmaking ability. I think he should be a fine mid to late round draft pick. On that list he is easily the best player at that Duke Pro day I feel. Gilbert has big time potential but again his injury issues is a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 It’s just crazy the array of numbers and so hard to believe anything. Jaycee Horn was settled on 4.39 by whoever. But on his Instagram he has a graphic with all his numbers on it and a 4.32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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