TVScout Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 70% of fully vaccinated prisoners caught COVID-19 in a Texas Delta outbreak, the CDC says — but vaccines protected against severe disease. Quote More than two-thirds of fully vaccinated people in a Texas prison caught COVID-19 during an outbreak of the Delta variant in July, but vaccines protected against severe illness, a study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found. https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-fully-vaccinated-unvaccinated-texas-prisoner-delta-covid-outbreak-19-2021-9?fbclid=IwAR3FOcHCjxCVOeNPPPuxYtm9E9B-UnAxCi-SnqkCJXBgFky9aAvCMxeEeTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, TVScout said: 70% of fully vaccinated prisoners caught COVID-19 in a Texas Delta outbreak, the CDC says — but vaccines protected against severe disease. https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-fully-vaccinated-unvaccinated-texas-prisoner-delta-covid-outbreak-19-2021-9?fbclid=IwAR3FOcHCjxCVOeNPPPuxYtm9E9B-UnAxCi-SnqkCJXBgFky9aAvCMxeEeTA The actual important part of the article that got left out, before people start ranting about whether vaccines work: Quote Most of the prisoners were white men, and many had received Pfizer's vaccine at least four months before the outbreak, the data showed. People with limited active antibodies from the initial vaccination can still get sick without a booster, but they didn't get severely sick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 @LETSGOBROWNIES I read up that your district is going back to "optional" masks. Good times. Lots of data to back that up, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, MWil23 said: @LETSGOBROWNIES I read up that your district is going back to "optional" masks. Good times. Lots of data to back that up, or something. Awesome stuff… They are putting on this whole production about data collection, and monitoring stuff, etc. while also letting kids just opt out with a note from their parents. It’s an absolute clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: The actual important part of the article that got left out, before people start ranting about whether vaccines work: People with limited active antibodies from the initial vaccination can still get sick without a booster, but they didn't get severely sick. Also worth noting that prisons are the worst case scenario because of the close quarters and lack of ability to isolate people. So they’re just constantly being exposed and re-exposed and eventually it’s going to break through when you’re seeing those number of exposures. All but three unvaccinated prisoners caught it. So even if if didn’t also see break throughs, there was still 40+ repeated exposures from different sources that the majority of those prisoners experienced. Eventually you’re gonna catch it with that many exposures. And it grew even more after all the break throughs. So 70% infection rate does not mean 30% efficacy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Awesome stuff… They are putting on this whole production about data collection, and monitoring stuff, etc. while also letting kids just opt out with a note from their parents. It’s an absolute clown show. Thankfully ours can also get a waiver signed. A local teacher and coach just died of Covid yesterday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Thankfully ours can also get a waiver signed. A local teacher and coach just died of Covid yesterday. My wife’s coworker’s kid got an ear infection, strep, and COVID all at the same time. The system is working great, guys. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Thankfully ours can also get a waiver signed. A local teacher and coach just died of Covid yesterday. I just find the “we’re gonna review the data” line to be especially comical. Like, there’s plenty of data available that show masks work. We don’t need your flawed data lol. They’re pandering, simple as that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I just find the “we’re gonna review the data” line to be especially comical. Like, there’s plenty of data available that show masks work. We don’t need your flawed data lol. They’re pandering, simple as that. "We're going to review the last several levy votes and make our decision accordingly, because we need funding." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: "We're going to review the last several levy votes and make our decision accordingly, because we need funding." That’s all it is and it’s disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, pwny said: Also worth noting that prisons are the worst case scenario because of the close quarters and lack of ability to isolate people. So they’re just constantly being exposed and re-exposed and eventually it’s going to break through when you’re seeing those number of exposures. All but three unvaccinated prisoners caught it. So even if if didn’t also see break throughs, there was still 40+ exposures that the majority of those prisoners experienced. Eventually you’re gonna catch it with that many exposures. And it grew even more after all the break throughs. So 70% infection rate does not mean 30% efficacy. Agreed. Beyond close quarters many prisons have notoriously bad ventilation systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: People with limited active antibodies from the initial vaccination can still get sick without a booster, but they didn't get severely sick. Life vest. It doesn't keep you dry, it just keeps you alive 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 hours ago, MWil23 said: @LETSGOBROWNIES I read up that your district is going back to "optional" masks. Good times. Lots of data to back that up, or something. My district has been on optional masks since school started in July and it’s been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Mesa_Titan said: My district has been on optional masks since school started in July and it’s been fine. Cool. It’s been a disaster here. Tbh, optional masks in my area last year would have been fine too outside of one month, but here it’s been awful. Covid everywhere and multiple teenage hospitalizations and ventilators, including teacher deaths in the area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, TVScout said: Life vest. It doesn't keep you dry, it just keeps you alive Will shamelessly steal this. Excellent analogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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