Covid-19 News/Discussion

[Mesa_Titan]

15 hours ago, BayRaider said:

Before covid, it was whatever. Flu wasn’t as contagious as covid, and I would still wash my hands any chance I could, and shower after work. Casino is right up there with a hospital, but without protective gear. Casinos get the dirtiest and most gross people on the planet. 
 

With covid, anyone that’s sick, especially a cough, should NOT be working. They should leave asap. The last guy didn’t make me that mad cause his cough was super small, he didn’t think he had covid, and when his girlfriend’s test came back, he left ASAP to quarantine. I was still mad though. This guy though, I’m 100000000000% sure that he KNOWS he has covid, and he’s working anyways. He knows he has covid. I have no doubt about it. Will talk to his boss later. 

Send him to the gulags mate. 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nc-hospital-system-suspends-nearly-132727251.html

[Xenos]

2 hours ago, candyman93 said:

Question, I’ve tried looking.

 

Are Johnson and Johnson booster shots actually available? I’m going to get one if I can.

No, they’re not. Not even sure when J&J is going to submit its data to the FDA for approval. But that’s the one that needs a booster IMO.

Edit: looks like J&J just did submit its data. 

https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/21/johnson-johnson-says-additional-dose-boosts-covid-vaccine-efficacy/

Edited September 21, 2021 by Xenos

[TVScout]

Paywalled:

Second dose of Johnson & Johnson vaccine increases protection against covid-19, vaccine maker says.

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Results published this summer indicate that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine generates lasting amounts of antibodies able to target delta and other variants of concern. In June and July, when delta was ascendant, the effectiveness of the one-shot vaccine was 78 percent against observed covid-19, according to a report published Thursday that has not yet gone through peer review. A second dose, given 56 days later, further improves protection, the company said in a news release Tuesday. According to the company’s Ensemble 2 study, a Phase 3 randomized clinical trial, efficacy was 100 percent against severe or critical covid-19 for two weeks after the booster. Efficacy against symptomatic disease in the United States was 94 percent.  Anthony S. Fauci told NBC News that the FDA review of second Johnson & Johnson shots, as well as Moderna boosters, is “a couple to a few weeks away. …

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/21/johnson-and-johnson-booster-shot/

Which type of masks are best?

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..............in physical science experiments, surgical masks were 60 to 70 percent effective at protecting others from the coronavirus and 50 percent effective at protecting the wearer. Cloth masks, on the other hand, showed quite a lot of variability, from less than 10 percent to more than 60 percent depending on the material of the mask. Masks work by blocking or filtering out viruses that are carried in aerosols. Filtering is not sieving out things that are too large to pass through holes in the material. Rather, air must curve as it flows around individual, tightly packed fibers of the material, like a racecar swerving around cones of an obstacle course. As the air curves, the aerosols it carries cannot make the sharp bends and therefore slam into the fibers, or they come too close to the fibers and stick to them. Very small aerosols acquire random motion from air molecules bouncing off them and end up crashing into the fibers. This process works in both directions as air flows through a mask. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/your-coronavirus-questions-answered-which-type-of-masks-are-best/2021/09/17/3d92748c-1662-11ec-a5e5-ceecb895922f_story.html

[candyman93]

1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nc-hospital-system-suspends-nearly-132727251.html

F around and find out.

[candyman93]

This thing is going to kill a million people. Blows my mind honestly.

 

That’s going to have devastating long term effects rather conspiracy theorists realize that or not. You don’t just remove a million people and not have consequences.

[ET80]

2 hours ago, diehardlionfan said:

When I was a kid and new vaccines were being introduced we didn’t get to wait for more information. Everyone to the gym for your shot/sugar cube etc.

Hell, you guys got a sugar cube!?

I'M NOT GETTING A BOOSTER UNTIL I GET SOME SUGAR CUBES!

2 hours ago, diehardlionfan said:

I’ve never heard so much B.S. from so many people in my life. Facts and truth seem lost on far to many people.

Isaac Asimov said it the best...

Suddenly, "MuH fReEdOmS" overrides actual, tangible knowledge to the subject - and the more complex the subject, the more ignorance the audience puts on display.

Utter stupidity (no other way to describe it) is ruling the roost nowadays... masquerading as freedom. 

[candyman93]

2 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

This thing is going to kill a million people. Blows my mind honestly.

 

That’s going to have devastating long term effects rather conspiracy theorists realize that or not. You don’t just remove a million people and not have consequences.

Just to add on, our entire economic structure is based around there always being growth and money circulating. It’s basically a pyramid scheme. Losing a million people is going to cause longterm effects we don’t realize yet.

 

Sorry to sound callous and ignore the obvious fact we just lost a million people. I’m just trying a money angle because that’s all some people seem to understand.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

12 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

Just to add on, our entire economic structure is based around there always being growth and money circulating. It’s basically a pyramid scheme. Losing a million people is going to cause longterm effects we don’t realize yet.

 

Sorry to sound callous and ignore the obvious fact we just lost a million people. I’m just trying a money angle because that’s all some people seem to understand.

The funny thing is the people who are so determined to “get back to normal” are the same ones holding us back.

Like, just wear a mask in crowded places and get a vaccine and we’re more or less back to normal.

Once cases drop, start pulling back mask usage as much as data supports doing do. This isn’t rocket surgery.

[ramssuperbowl99]

37 minutes ago, ET80 said:

Suddenly, "MuH fReEdOmS" overrides actual, tangible knowledge to the subject - and the more complex the subject, the more ignorance the audience puts on display.

 

Utter stupidity (no other way to describe it) is ruling the roost nowadays... masquerading as freedom. 

One of the more revealing things from the anti-vaxers who do come in here is how quickly, generally, they are to "agree to disagree". One of them even asked if they could just "move on as equals", before being shot down. 

I disagree that it's pure stupidity. It's ego. Stupidity and a lack of critical thinking skills has a lot to do with it, but at their core they want to feel validated and special and just as smart as those know-it-all scientists.

Edited September 21, 2021 by ramssuperbowl99

[ET80]

3 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

I disagree that it's pure stupidity. It's ego. Stupidity and a lack of critical thinking skills has a lot to do with it, but at their core they want to feel validated and special and just as smart as those know-it-all scientists.

Yeah, that makes sense. I'll buy that for a dollar.

[candyman93]

29 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

I disagree that it's pure stupidity. It's ego. Stupidity and a lack of critical thinking skills has a lot to do with it, but at their core they want to feel validated and special and just as smart as those know-it-all scientists.

It’s why conspiracies have cult followings.

 

You are the guy “who knows what other people don’t know.” It makes you feel smarter than “everybody else.”

[MrDrew]

8 hours ago, Tugboat said:

I think i would've gone with a Catalytic Converter analogy instead tbh.

Definitely a better analogy, but not as many understand how a cat works, or that it even exists. Everybody can understand an air filter.

[JonStark]

32 minutes ago, MrDrew said:

Definitely a better analogy, but not as many understand how a cat works, or that it even exists. Everybody can understand an air filter.

Even less know how a vaccine works, but we all know how that's going. 

[diehardlionfan]

1 hour ago, JonStark said:

Even less know how a vaccine works, but we all know how that's going. 

This provided a good chuckle.😎