Covid-19 News/Discussion

[aceinthehouse]

3 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

if everyone had gotten vaxxed we would be back to normal

But Vaxxed are getting sick. Put on Covid/IR.

How do we NOT know, that the vaccinated aren't spreading Covid?

And if that's the case? The NFL is screwed.

[BullsandBroncos]

23 minutes ago, WizeGuy said:

I'm really worried the season is going to get derailed due to COVID. London is getting CREAMED (cases wises) by Omicron right now. It'll be the most prevalent variant soon enough. Just in time for the playoffs. The NFL is going to have to tighten ship if they want to prevent major outbreaks. 

 

Aw man, I love NY, though. I could never move out of this state. So many beautiful areas that are such short drives away!

Yes upstate in the fall is one of the most underrated and most beautiful places there is in the northeast. The extreme weather and cost of living is what pushed me out after 26 years of living there and being born there. 

[incognito_man]

1 minute ago, aceinthehouse said:

But Vaxxed are getting sick. Put on Covid/IR.

How do we NOT know, that the vaccinated aren't spreading Covid?

And if that's the case? The NFL is screwed.

We know that people who are vaccinated (and boosted when needed) are around 15-20x less likely to need hospitalization.

Reducing the hospitalizations by a factor of 20 is going to let us return to normal.

Vaccines work. Get vaccinated and your booster. Everyone needs to do their part. Those refusing a vaccination are responsible for the economic fallout.

 

 

[BullsandBroncos]

20 minutes ago, aceinthehouse said:

Isn't there a team that's 100% vaccinated?

Wonder how many sick bodies they have on their Covid 19/IR.

Falcons, Raiders, and Bucs.

[Blackstar12]

Browns are getting to a point where forfeit is a possibility that’s crazy. 

[MWil23]

58 minutes ago, Tk3 said:

I respect the challenges mods must be facign around off-topic conversations - but surely there has to be somewhere we can talk about Baker Mayfield and how his positive test impacts the Browns/Raiders game. Can someone reopen the Browns thread in news? @TheKillerNacho

And frankly, can't we just start temp banning the consistent offenders instead of shutting down meaningful threads?

Baker...and the 8 other starters, when if the Browns could just beat the Raiders they'd be at the top of the AFC North, but since they're going to lose, their season is effectively over now. Fun times in Cleveland. I wonder why I'm so cynical again?

[Blackstar12]

15 hours ago, BayRaider said:

Sigh, another mask mandate in California. My income is going to go down like 90%. 

I’m seeing many places across state aren’t even enforcing it. Governor of Colorado has the better approach tbh. They gave Californians only two days notice which probably pissed off 1000s of business across the state. Most people got their shots, followed protocols yet they have to go back because of a small percentage of people didn’t.

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Blackstar12

[jetsfan4life51]

28 minutes ago, BullsandBroncos said:

Yes upstate in the fall is one of the most underrated and most beautiful places there is in the northeast. The extreme weather and cost of living is what pushed me out after 26 years of living there and being born there. 

I think Hochul is also running people out too.  Very glad I don't live or work in the City.  We just got mandated in Nassau County on Monday but rumor is Blakeman isn't going to enforce.

[Shanedorf]

2 hours ago, WizeGuy said:

This is extremely interesting:

 

Thoughts @Shanedorf @ramssuperbowl99

This may be out of your realm of expertise, though!

Relatively speaking - we can look at severity of disease by location, even for non-Covid pathogens. A mouth / throat infection is less worrisome than a bronchial infection and much less deleterious than a lung infection.
Walk into an ER and tell them you have a "very sore throat" and then compare that with the reaction you'd get if you tell them you have "pneumonia and you can hear the gurgling in your lungs "

Pneumonia will get you to the front of the line immediately, while a strep throat will get you a comfy seat in the waiting room. The deeper the infection, the higher the mortality and the ER teams will react accordingly

So IF this omicron variant is happier in the bronchi than deep in lung tissues, that could be a good thing, relatively speaking. If we go back to the pathology around the COVID disease, some of it came from an over-reaction of our immune systems that caused fibrous scars - and prevented the alveoli from exchanging Oxygen/CO2. ( see below)
Bronchi are the major air highway, alveoli are the cul-de-sac at the end of the line.

IF the omicron version resides more in the bronchi, then you'd guess that lung scarring is less likely and patients aren't drowning from the viral infection.

The flip side is that you'd guess a patient would spew more virus from the bronchi ( closer to the mouth/nose) and thus be more transmissible than an infection deep in the lung tissue.
Just a couple of thoughts after reading that tweet from WizeGuy.

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by Shanedorf

[BullsandBroncos]

11 minutes ago, jetsfan4life51 said:

I think Hochul is also running people out too.  Very glad I don't live or work in the City.  We just got mandated in Nassau County on Monday but rumor is Blakeman isn't going to enforce.

Oh she is. My wife worked in her upstate office and said that she's crazier than Emperor Andrew.

 

im sure Nassau county will be in the clear. One of the wealthiest counties in the state

[Tk3]

24 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Baker...and the 8 other starters, when if the Browns could just beat the Raiders they'd be at the top of the AFC North, but since they're going to lose, their season is effectively over now. Fun times in Cleveland. I wonder why I'm so cynical again?

This is like martyr porn for Browns fans

Never met a Browns fan who doesn't love to have bad things happen to them so that they can lament how bad it is

[Xenos]

1 hour ago, WizeGuy said:

I'm really worried the season is going to get derailed due to COVID. London is getting CREAMED (cases wises) by Omicron right now. It'll be the most prevalent variant soon enough. Just in time for the playoffs. The NFL is going to have to tighten ship if they want to prevent major outbreaks. 

 

Aw man, I love NY, though. I could never move out of this state. So many beautiful areas that are such short drives away!

The NFL needs to go back to the same protocols as last season in order to get through this one. Also push boosting also.

[MWil23]

9 minutes ago, Tk3 said:

This is like martyr porn for Browns fans

Never met a Browns fan who doesn't love to have bad things happen to them so that they can lament how bad it is

We’ve truly had so much to be thankful and optimistic about in the last 60 years…

[Xenos]

28 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said:

I’m seeing many places across state aren’t even enforcing it. Governor of Colorado has the better approach tbh. They gave Californians only two days notice which probably pissed off 1000s of business across the state. Most people got their shots, followed protocols yet they have to go back because of a small percentage of people didn’t.

 

I think what CA did was in response to Omicron also. As for 2 days notice, different counties and cities in CA had already implemented the indoor mask mandate in the fall. I don’t know how big of a nuisance it actually is for everyone else who didn’t previously have one.

[JonStark]

1 hour ago, incognito_man said:

if everyone had gotten vaxxed we would be back to normal

This is true, but unfortunately was never a realistic option.

Even if everyone in the US was on the same page (LOL), the fact that we are stopping other countries who can't afford to buy the vaccines from reverse engineering their own tells me this was always going to be what happened.