808 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Good think Jon Gruden doesn't have a vote. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/12/29/16829272/eagles-news-jon-gruden-would-vote-carson-wentz-mvp-nfl-tom-brady-todd-gurley-race-philadelphia-qb Quote "It's hard to argue with that guy up in New England," said Jon Gruden of Tom Brady, "but what he did as a second-year player, I would vote for Carson Wentz. He did it as a runner, he did it as a passer, his audibles, his command at the line of scrimmage, his leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, 808 said: depends on which god you are referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jakuvious said: You contradict yourself in a span of two sentences. If the Rams are 0-4 when Gurley gets less than 17 carries, how did they win one when he got 11? They're actually 2-4 in that situation. Not 0-4. He sat the entire 2nd half. I should have put an asterisk next to that one. And didn't realize he as 17 vs Saints in a W. Regardless, Gurley gets the ball they win. When he doesn't, they lose. This is probably the only knock Rams fans would have on McVay in a spectacular year is that he got too pass happy at times. Even McVay admitted it he did and since he admitted that Gurley has gone ham sandwich and cemented his status as a top MVP candidate. Sadly I know they're going to give it to Brady, but it's just proof what a joke the award has become. You can have a slightly above average season as a QB (not even be the best QB) and you can win vs a RB having a wayyy above average season (potentially record setting if he didn't sit week 17 because he would be first RB to lead all RBs in both rushing and receiving in the same year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Wentz is not in the discussion. Just now, lancerman said: He's in the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 3 hours ago, tonyto36 said: Meanwhile, the gap between Todd Gurley and literally any other FLEX player is massive. While Tom Brady and Alex Smith are tied statistically, Gurley has no counterpart due to his remarkable ability to rush and receive. Ranked in order of yards: Todd Gurley: 343 touches, 2,093 yards, 19 TDs, 139.5 YDS/G, 6.10 YDS/TouchLe'Veon Bell: 406 touches, 1,946 yards, 11 TDs, 129.8 YDS/G, 4.79 YDS/TouchKareem Hunt: 324 touches, 1,747 yards, 10 TDs, 116.4 YDS/G, 5.39 YDS/touch The gap between Todd Gurley and Le'Veon Bell, both in MVP consideration, is significantly larger than Brady and Smith, even though Smith isn't a pro bowler. This is exactly why he won't win it. RB have to completely Dominate , have a record setting type year to take it away from a QB. This award has become a Glorified QB award. So Gurley isn't winning. Outside of TD ( which everyone is quick to point out about Wentz), he's barely out produced the two listed above. If you point out the overall "touches" for Bell (63 more) then you also have to apply the (19 less) for Hunt. A ROOKIE!!! A Rookie RB putting up similar numbers doesn't help His or Your case, sorry. That's why he won't win. Especially after Brady comes out and throws another 3-4 TD this weekend. It's Brady's Regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 32 minutes ago, 808 said: Wentz IS the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, lancerman said: Why is Jake Plummer holding a goat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyto36 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, 808 said: Good think Jon Gruden doesn't have a vote. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2017/12/29/16829272/eagles-news-jon-gruden-would-vote-carson-wentz-mvp-nfl-tom-brady-todd-gurley-race-philadelphia-qb So now Wentz is a better passer, leader, and audible/LOS caller than Brady? Ooook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Just now, tonyto36 said: So now Wentz is a better passer, leader, and audible/LOS caller than Brady? Ooook. Gruden doesn't say Wentz is better at those abilities, he just mentions how he would vote for Wentz because of how he did those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 hours ago, 808 said: Gruden doesn't say Wentz is better at those abilities, he just mentions how he would vote for Wentz because of how he did those things. Kind of inferring that he did them better than Brady this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 6 hours ago, BStanRamFan said: Sadly I know they're going to give it to Brady, but it's just proof what a joke the award has become. You can have a slightly above average season as a QB (not even be the best QB) and you can win vs a RB having a wayyy above average season (potentially record setting if he didn't sit week 17 because he would be first RB to lead all RBs in both rushing and receiving in the same year). I love how Brady winning MVP is a joke now....as if he's not even worthy of the award lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: I love how Brady winning MVP is a joke now....as if he's not even worthy of the award lol Apparently Tom Brady has only played slightly above average.... Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: 1 hour ago, Pats#1 said: I love how Brady winning MVP is a joke now....as if he's not even worthy of the award lol Apparently Tom Brady has only played slightly above average.... Interesting. Well let's be real. Anything not Ram related is considered Average in their eyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, Nabbs4u said: Well let's be real. Anything not Ram related is considered Average in their eyes! Ram > Goat therefore Gurley > Brady It's science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 15 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: Well let's be real. Anything not Ram related is considered Average in their eyes! His stats are almost identical to Alex Smith this year. People just drop to their knees cause its Tom Brady. Oh and Bell/Hunt are sitting tomorrow so Gurley will lead the league in rushing and receiving for a RB. Which has never been done before, which now "officially" makes him have a shot at MVP since you have to set a record in the NFL as a RB just to be the most valuable player to your team. Again...such a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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