SBLIII Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: It certainly is possible. I know many say he is real because he was better statistically (and eye test) each year. Makes me wonder if Baker's 2nd year was his rookie year and his rookie year was his 2nd if more people would believe he was more than just a middle of the pack QB. In that scenario Mayfield would have been a good bit better the first two years and Allen a good bit better last year but it was still a good year for both. Career wise Baker leads him in most categories. Allen has the interception percentage (2.2 to 2.9) and rating (89.7-89.6) but otherwise Baker has the better passing numbers while Allen obviously has the better rushing numbers. I certainly think people would rank them closer in that scenario instead of one being top 4 and the other top 15. I think the most likely scenario is that Allen has improved a lot, will never revert back to 2018 and 2019 but will also not reach his 2020 heights regularly. Buffalo had a DVOA offense outside the top 20 in his first 2 years and then suddenly 5th last year and Allen was playing on a top 3-5 level. That's hardly a sustainable level of performance for any QB and the circumstances were also unique. But Allen has also very good coaching and a good supporting cast so I would expect him to come in that top 7/8ish level of QB play as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 11 hours ago, BigTrav said: I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... BigTroll with another terrible take. Raiders fans have always been active on this forum, win or loss. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 12 hours ago, BigTrav said: I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... Another L. We've been here and aren't going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 He is top ten. Doesn’t throw as many TD’s as some would expect of a top ten QB, but no one so far has stopped us running them in. Why risk a pass when you can run it in. Lot less risk to that. What Baker does do is get the team into the Redzone with great efficiency. How the touch down is scored doesn’t matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 13 hours ago, BigTrav said: I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... It's the universe balancing itself out. All the Chiefs fans have disappeared and Raiders fans are back. Yin and Yang baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 20 hours ago, BigTrav said: I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... We were here when Carr dropped 40 at Arrowhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 100 qb rating top 7 seven qb . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 11 hours ago, hornbybrown said: He is top ten. Doesn’t throw as many TD’s as some would expect of a top ten QB, but no one so far has stopped us running them in. Why risk a pass when you can run it in. Lot less risk to that. What Baker does do is get the team into the Redzone with great efficiency. How the touch down is scored doesn’t matter. Excellent post we put up 30 points a game while keeping it away from other qbs. There is a reason are average point spread is more than 15 points a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunePenguins Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 At the rate he is playing at I would say he is top 5 by the end of the year. He is outplaying the likes of Aaron Rodgers by just a touch. The fact that he is on the level of Rodgers in his 4th year shows that he is elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, NeptunePenguins said: At the rate he is playing at I would say he is top 5 by the end of the year. He is outplaying the likes of Aaron Rodgers by just a touch. The fact that he is on the level of Rodgers in his 4th year shows that he is elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, NeptunePenguins said: At the rate he is playing at I would say he is top 5 by the end of the year. He is outplaying the likes of Aaron Rodgers by just a touch. The fact that he is on the level of Rodgers in his 4th year shows that he is elite. lmao? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 7:41 AM, BigTrav said: I don't remember the Raider fans being this active in NFL Gen last season... If all you're going to post about are other fans, please don't post. Tks - ET 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Honestly, this thread ran its course a few pages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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