AngusMcFife Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: While I agree with that MVP, just another long list of QB’s that get figured out after a dominant season. Newton, etc. By “figured out” I don’t mean he sucks now, but anyone who puts him remotely close to Top 5 is smoking some crack, some good crack. Anywhere from 9-14 at this point, and 9 might be generous. If you put Lamar behind an excellent offensive line and adds some dynamic RBs in the backfield, he can easily win more MVPs. His upside still makes him a potential top 5 QB. The problem with the offense now is the RBs are really slow at all and the offensive line isn't very good. What outside observers think of as being "figured out" simply miss the severe deterioration of OL since 2019, and severe RB injuries in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Which is funnier: Browns get a FG this drive, then nobody scores for the rest of the game? OR Ravens get a FG and Browns score a TD but miss the XP and it is a tie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Eh, just go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, ThatJerkDave said: Which is funnier: Browns get a FG this drive, then nobody scores for the rest of the game? OR Ravens get a FG and Browns score a TD but miss the XP and it is a tie? The latter has more of that, destined to be a tie, feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Wait, wasn't this game flexed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Blackstar12 said: Browns would be winning with Keenum tbh. Receivers still wouldn't be getting open though. Besides the fumble and Baker freaking out from getting pressured a couple of times, we're not really losing because of him. But I do agree Keenum should be in just because Baker playing hurt isn't helping anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 It’s easy to stop Lamar, you just give him multiple diseases and a newborn baby and put 40 of his teammates on IR. check mate, NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, ThatJaxxenGuy said: It’s easy to stop Lamar, you just give him multiple diseases and a newborn baby and put 40 of his teammates on IR. check mate, NFL Or make him have to poop, but don't let him go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, AngusMcFife said: If you put Lamar behind an excellent offensive line and adds some dynamic RBs in the backfield, he can easily win more MVPs. His upside still makes him a potential top 5 QB. The problem with the offense now is the RBs are really slow at all and the offensive line isn't very good. What outside observers think of as being "figured out" simply miss the severe deterioration of OL since 2019, and severe RB injuries in 2021. This, nobody “figured out” how to contain a durable 4.2 QB. He’s just making awful, unforced, decisions tonight. Not sure he’s ever in MVP convo again, but absolutely could lead a great offense again if they can get the OL to what it was and become a smash mouth team. Like 95% of QBs, he’s a product of his supporting cast and coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, ThatJerkDave said: Or make him have to poop, but don't let him go. We need Brown streaking on the field, and I don’t mean Hollywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: If you put Lamar behind an excellent offensive line and adds some dynamic RBs in the backfield, he can easily win more MVPs. His upside still makes him a potential top 5 QB. Excellent O-lines make mediocre QBs look good. Lamar isn't even a mediocre QB lol. Detroit making the Superbowl next year has a higher likelihood than Lamar winning another MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Wow, CLE botched their clock management here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 That was a costly holding penalty. Gives the Browns a tiny chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, ThatJerkDave said: That was a costly holding penalty. Gives the Browns a tiny chance. Just don't think there's enough time, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Watching this has a South Park little league vibe to it. It’s even better that the media can’t help but gush on Lamar after an all time awful performance, only to be outdone by the woeful Cleveland Clowns 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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