Kiltman Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Trying to just visualize this. Basically these 4 Conferences leave the NCAA to form under the Playoff system, what that looks like I have no clue. But it's clear building out the playoff is coming.. If that is the plan, there is a chance I suppose the Big Ten and SEC could decide to collude and we get to 2 Uber mega conference and the whole thing blows up. The New? College Landscape B1G Ten If Notre Dame decided to stay indie, or join the ACC to retain it's larger revenue, you add a Pitt or Virginia Tech into the Eastern. If they were to kick out Nebraska - Utah is a possibility You can get down to a 20 team model if no Notre Dame, Virginia, Arizona and you boot Nebraska. Michigan State moves to the East to balance. SEC If there is wiggle room for breaking the ACC deal, SEC probably starts it and gets the main teams. If not looks more like this. And both mega-conferences wait to devour the ACC when that deal is done or the TV deal is nulled. BIG 12 and ACC ACC doesn't add Temple if the ACC tv deals stays strong and Clemson, Miami and FSU stays. Goes go 2 divisions of 8. If the SEC takes Arizona State and Utah, move a team west and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Reports were the BIG 10 listened to USC/UCLA wanting to do this, so not making a move for a team from the Big 12 when Texa/OU left makes a little more sense. It's not like their were must haves left. Kansas, maybe Texas Tech if they want a team down in Texas. But they probably don't add the private religious schools in Baylor & TCU. ACC is stuck because if they try to expand, the TV deal gets torn up and The B1G Ten and SEC are going to gun it at their top teams and be left with whatever is left. Academic wise and historic rivalry wise, Cal, Stanford, and Notre Dame would all make sense with these additions. Maybe even Washington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Academic wise and historic rivalry wise, Cal, Stanford, and Notre Dame would all make sense with these additions. Maybe even Washington. not sure how much academic and historical concepts will play a part in determining realignment vs just flat out $$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 A lot has changed, but I always joke the ACC would never let WVU in due to academics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Academic wise and historic rivalry wise, Cal, Stanford, and Notre Dame would all make sense with these additions. Maybe even Washington. Absolutely not. No. Eff that. No no no no no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Academic wise and historic rivalry wise, Cal, Stanford, and Notre Dame would all make sense with these additions. Maybe even Washington. Yeah they all fit the best. would be larger dominos though. Just thinking like what 2 more easy ones look like. PAC seems like a jenga tower on the edge, if they take one more there they probably are taking a bunch. Would you think Notre Dame would get pressed more into being one of those 21-24 teams? Given at that point they will lose a lot of their game opportunities. Maybe they wait a couple years since they can just move football pretty much whenever. Let the B1G and SEC up their offers while they both wait for their two new additions to come in 2024, with an absolutely desperate ACC also trying to lock them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, squire12 said: not sure how much academic and historical concepts will play a part in determining realignment vs just flat out $$$$ Money absolutely does for sure, and they bring that too, but the B1G does have that academic standard component. (Said partly to trigger Rams and Nebraska rant). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swede700 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, CWood21 said: Who else is the Big 10 going to poach? If they wanted any of the other Pac-12 teams, they would have poached them. No, they wouldn't. This was likely about USC and UCLA contacting the B1G, not the B1G poaching them. The B1G didn't really need the LA market, but certainly would take it if they were offered, which they did. Plus, the SEC has gotten teams from the Big 12 at different times (Mizzou, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma), not all at once, so it's not really required to grab them all at the same time. In the end, if there are 4 more teams to come from the Pac-12, it would be Stanford, Cal (to preserve the rivalry), Oregon and Washington. Because then you're adding the San Francisco, Seattle and Portland markets. The Notre Dame to B1G steam is long over and likely won't ever happen at this point because the B1G was tired of chasing after them and getting rebuffed. They pretty much gave up that fight after they took on Nebraska. Edited July 1, 2022 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 It's only almost 2,800 miles from LA to Piscataway. That will be a fun trip for those transferring equipment.... they still do that by truck or bus, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 15 hours ago, beekay414 said: If Notre Dame doesn't get the ACC buyout for their other programs, it'll likely just be Washington and Oregon. Think Stanford would be contingent on ND. With Notre Dame currently playing hockey in the Big Ten they might be the logical choice - if as you say their other programs can come along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 15 hours ago, beekay414 said: I mean, people do here but when talking about tailgating, it's beer or seltzer 100%. I don't **** with whiskey other than when we do bar dice and I gotta do shots but that's usually the mixed **** so it's not really whiskey (Crown Apple, stuff like that). I can do 7&7s though. My friends all drink bourbon or whiskey though but that's usually when they are just chilling at home by themselves. I'm too damn old to drink that hard stuff. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, swede700 said: No, they wouldn't. This was likely about USC and UCLA contacting the B1G, not the B1G poaching them. The B1G didn't really need the LA market, but certainly would take it if they were offered, which they did. Plus, the SEC has gotten teams from the Big 12 at different times (Mizzou, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma), not all at once, so it's not really required to grab them all at the same time. In the end, if there are 4 more teams to come from the Pac-12, it would be Stanford, Cal (to preserve the rivalry), Oregon and Washington. Because then you're adding the San Francisco, Seattle and Portland markets. The Notre Dame to B1G steam is long over and likely won't ever happen at this point because the B1G was tired of chasing after them and getting rebuffed. They pretty much gave up that fight after they took on Nebraska. Let's not kid ourselves. There were definitely feelers put out by both sides. Programs don't just out of the blue suddenly ask to join another conference. There's usually under-the-table discussions going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CWood21 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: I'm dead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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