CWood21 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Kiltman said: Trying to just visualize this. Notre Dame is the last cash major cash cow that needs some sort of direction. Think if they're going to jump into a conference, it'll be the Big 10. Right now, the SEC is at 16 teams after Oklahoma and Texas join. Clemson will obviously be the big fish they'll try to bring in. That second tier consists of Miami (FL) and Florida State. If they brought in all 3 teams, that would push them to 19 teams so they'd probably need at least one more added. Think the North Carolina/Duke package could probably bring value to the table. Big 10 is at 16 with USC and UCLA, but who else besides Notre Dame brings value to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Let's not kid ourselves. There were definitely feelers put out by both sides. Programs don't just out of the blue suddenly ask to join another conference. There's usually under-the-table discussions going on. Well, I'm certain that they had been talking, but the impetus had to come from USC and UCLA because of how far the Pac-12 was falling behind in media money. They were likely the ones to reach out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, swede700 said: Well, I'm certain that they had been talking, but the impetus had to come from USC and UCLA because of how far the Pac-12 was falling behind in media money. They were likely the ones to reach out first. I'm not disagreeing with that. There was more motivation for USC and UCLA to go shopping, but we've already heard reports about that this has been going on for weeks, not days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Notre Dame is the last cash major cash cow that needs some sort of direction. Think if they're going to jump into a conference, it'll be the Big 10. Right now, the SEC is at 16 teams after Oklahoma and Texas join. Clemson will obviously be the big fish they'll try to bring in. That second tier consists of Miami (FL) and Florida State. If they brought in all 3 teams, that would push them to 19 teams so they'd probably need at least one more added. Think the North Carolina/Duke package could probably bring value to the table. Big 10 is at 16 with USC and UCLA, but who else besides Notre Dame brings value to the table. Really depends what their game is. If the Big Ten just wants to be clearly in a tier most comprable to the SEC, this move helped them separate from the others as that #2. If the whole thing is building to a new system where the SEC and BIG Ten basically run the whole thing they have more work to do. The benefits of further additions also help for the TV deal that’s being worked on right now. They just added two teams in the 2nd biggest market and have the top 4. Rk Top 50 Metropolitan Market Regions / Areas IN CONF. Potentialadds 1 New York Rutgers 2 Los Angeles USC & UCLA 3 Chicago Northwestern 4 Philadelphia Penn State 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 6 San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose Stanford 7 Boston 8 Atlanta 9 Washington, DC Maryland 10 Houston 11 Detroit Michigan & State 12 Phoenix Arizona / State 13 Tampa-St. Petersburg 14 Seattle-Tacoma Washington 15 Minneapolis-St. Paul Minnesota 16 Miami-Ft.Lauderdale Miami 17 Cleveland-Akron Ohio State 18 Denver Colorado 19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne 20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto Stanford 21 St. Louis 22 Portland, OR Oregon 23 Pittsburgh Pitt 24 Charlotte, NC UNC & Duke 25 Indianapolis Indiana / Purdue Notre Dame 26 Baltimore Maryland 27 Raleigh-Durham UNC & Duke 28 San Diego 29 Nashville 30 Hartford-New Haven 31 Kansas City Kansas 32 Columbus, OH Ohio State 33 Salt Lake City Utah 34 Cincinnati 35 Milwaukee Wiconsin 36 Greenville-Spartanburg-Asheville-Anderson Clemson 37 San Antonio 38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce Miami 39 Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek Michigan & State 40 Birmingham 41 Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York Penn State 42 Las Vegas 43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News Virginia / Va Tech 44 Albuquerque-Santa Fe 45 Oklahoma City Okla. State 46 Greensboro-High Point-Winston-Salem UNC & Duke 47 Jacksonville, FL 48 Memphis Memphis 49 Austin 50 Louisville Louisville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, CWood21 said: Notre Dame is the last cash major cash cow that needs some sort of direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Terrible. But also seriously what is the process for kicking schools out because Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska all need to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Terrible. But also seriously what is the process for kicking schools out because Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska all need to go. I welcome them back to the ACC with open arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winitall Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Terrible. But also seriously what is the process for kicking schools out because Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska all need to go. I’m pretty sure there’s just a buy-out process. Not exactly a galaxy-brain take, but I think adding USC and UCLA is the first step in getting rid of some of the lesser programs. I have no idea the exact bylaws but if you want to vote out lesser schools and create a mega conference, you need the votes to do that. They’ll now have OSU, Michigan, Penn State, USC, UCLA as the definitive power players who would vote to make that happen. Wisconsin, MSU, Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota are all probably on board as they’ve either made investments in football or are good enough. That helps get you over the objections of someone like Illinois, who would know they’re next. Edited July 1, 2022 by winitall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JammerHammer21 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Terrible. But also seriously what is the process for kicking schools out because Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska all need to go. That Lincoln media market is too much to pass up, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NateDawg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 With all the competitive teams possibly joining the Big Ten including USC, how long until Lincoln Riley jumps to what is left of the ACC or Big XII? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 42 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: and not because of the ducks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Looked at @Kiltman post I really hope we can land Stanford. They’d be a perfect fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 really seems like this is moving to a 16 teams x 4 mega conference situation. the make up of the current power 5 has 64 teams (14 each in ACC, big 10, SEC, 12 in the PAC and 10 in the big 12). That nicely tallies up to 64 teams. Leaves ND out of the mix. Certainly could slide a TCU or Vanderbilt out for ND if that were the desire for the ND TV draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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