notthatbluestuff Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Wait and see what the next coach can do with him or have you seen enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 No. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Unless he really is willing to put in the time and effort, no I've seen enough. Especially when you factor in that most of his great plays come from his agility/ability to extend plays, when that fades even a small bit....man, it's pretty ugly. And we see that if teams can simply keep him in the pocket, his effectiveness is drastically reduced. Don't get me wrong, there are likely 12+ teams that would take him happily - but the issue about his work ethic, and what we see on the field when he faces adversity, geting to elite status? Nope - I'm not even sure he's going to be a top 10 QB most years (disclaimer - talking IRL - fantasy-wise, mobile QB's get to top 10 even when they're not even close to top 10 QB's IRL - see Jalen Hurts 2021). Edited January 9, 2023 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Elite? No. but he can definitely be a plus QB who helps his team win games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Joe Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Never believed it in the first place. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinBran Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I'd still give him a chance with one more coach. There's so much upside there being underutilized... you'd have to think there's a coach out there that he syncs well with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I'm a believer. Top 15ish Floor and Top 5 Ceiling imo. Now maybe he's more likely to hit floor than ceiling, but he's a franchise QB somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) TBH, I never did. I thought the Cardinals might be able to negate alot of the issues I had with him. But if I were a new head coach trying to find a job, I'm not sure I'd want to take that situation on, especially now with the injury. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Cardinals move on from Kyler in the next year or two once a new GM/Coach come in and want to build a team in their image. Edited January 10, 2023 by Louis Friend 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 No, I never thought he was a franchise QB. He's a post MVP Russell Westbrook. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: No. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleAdamz Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I feel like he’s the kinda qb that makes an already good team great, but isn’t capable of carrying a weak roster. I still have hope… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr A W Niloc Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Kyler Murray, elite? Yes, but not consistently or immediately. He needs better coaching than that which got Kliff Kingsbury fired, healthy WRs, a better O-Line (30th) , and an easier schedule (witness 2021). We might need to wait until 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Elite? Like Mahomes? No, never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Dalton Schultz-elite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Never saw it to begin with. Lazy, entitled, totally money driven, immature, daddy was his PR guy, overly reliant on a gimmick offense...dude was, and is, exactly what you hope not to get when you take a QB early in the draft. He's not a total bust you can easily move away from, but he's not particularly good either and his ceiling was, regardless of what people say, about as high as he is tall. It was never going to last and he doesn't have the raw skill or desire to overcome things once he got figured out. Arizona got punked into his extension, and they're still now coachless and stuck as the worst team in their division. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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