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Is it actually worth it drafting RB's high + extending them?


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5 hours ago, Kiwibrown said:

Nick Chubb has played well on 1/3 9f uis extension. 

Elliot never played well at all on his and probably tanked the market. 

McCaffery played well on his. 

Henry has been good on his. 

 

Has anyone else had more than 10 million per year on an extension recently?

 

20 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, and Alvin Kamara.

You also have the no longer valid contracts of Le'Veon Bell, David Johnson, and Todd Gurley. They were all $13M+ IIRC.

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Just now, fluhartz said:

I don't think 1st round RB's are worth it anymore, the NFL is a passing league now. 2nd at the earliest unless a total beast falls to late in the first and since that is where you are picking you may not have a ton of holes... 

If a RB is dynamic in the passing game they can definitely be worth a FRP. 

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People post the RB stats like that matters... what matters is how have these teams performed? Have any of them won the SB? Multiple CG's? They could have used that 1st Round pick that usually contributes more to a SB Championship such as EDGE, DT, LT, and even WR and CB. 

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8 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

People post the RB stats like that matters... what matters is how have these teams performed? Have any of them won the SB? Multiple CG's? They could have used that 1st Round pick that usually contributes more to a SB Championship such as EDGE, DT, LT, and even WR and CB. 

Based on that logic you shouldn't draft a WR early either then. If you look back over the last 10+ Super Bowl champions I think only the Eagles (Agholor) and Bucs (Evans) had a WR they took in the first round. And when you look at the highest paid WR's only Tyreek/Kupp have rings and none of the other top tier guys have ever won in their careers. 

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27 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

People post the RB stats like that matters... what matters is how have these teams performed? Have any of them won the SB? Multiple CG's? They could have used that 1st Round pick that usually contributes more to a SB Championship such as EDGE, DT, LT, and even WR and CB. 

Which team drafted a first round RB and ignored Edge, DT, LT, WR and CB?

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Round 2 or later is the sweet spot to draft a RB, IMO. Most of the league's top backs weren't taken in the first.

Chubb is still playing out his second contract, but he's been worth it so far. But he's an exception.

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If a so called "Generational RB" comes along. We are talking LT, AP ect......., I don't give a 💩 if it's the 1st rd or not, positional value or not. You draft them. 

You get potentially the best RB in the NFL for a minimum of 4 years on the cheap before a decision needs to be made year 5.

What we have learned in the past decade though is, YOU DON'T EXTEND THEM! Use and abuse them like Dallas did Zeke, Titans did Henry, Panthers attempted  to do with CMC (injuries), and move on to a cheaper RB years 5-7.

Just because there has been success with RB in rds 2-7 , doesn't mean when a Special Generational one comes around you take that approach. 

Yes Bijan is that player. 

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22 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Posting their stats is not a compelling argument. What is their value? Production relative to cost? How are their teams doing relative to the cap space utilized at the RB position?

That’s also true. The last three super bowl winners all had mediocre running games. 

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1 hour ago, Nabbs4u said:

If a so called "Generational RB" comes along. We are talking LT, AP ect......., I don't give a 💩 if it's the 1st rd or not, positional value or not. You draft them. 

You get potentially the best RB in the NFL for a minimum of 4 years on the cheap before a decision needs to be made year 5.

What we have learned in the past decade though is, YOU DON'T EXTEND THEM! Use and abuse them like Dallas did Zeke, Titans did Henry, Panthers attempted  to do with CMC (injuries), and move on to a cheaper RB years 5-7.

Just because there has been success with RB in rds 2-7 , doesn't mean when a Special Generational one comes around you take that approach. 

Yes Bijan is that player. 

I think its a lot to do with how you manage said '1st round RB' as well. You see a good amount of instances where you have guys like Gurley, Leveon, Zeke and maybe even Henry who play 4-7 years in the league, but they are given 300+ carries or touches a season. They get injury prone, run down, tread wears off the tires or whatever saying you want to use and then they are finished.

Its almost like they are used and abused for for a handful of years, then thrown to the has-been trash heap and we complain why RBs are so devalued?

If a RB is incredibly good and worthy of a 1st, maybe teams should try to adopt more of a timeshare approach and limit the RB to 225 touches a season so that he CAN have a 8-10 year prime without his body breaking down.

Gurley for instance was getting 350 touches a season after teams knew about his injury history (Which we dont talk nearly enough about how poorly the Rams managed him). Like what are we doing over here and then get all pissy when he completely breaks down after 4 years and is out of the league??

Its not a "RB problem", its a "NFL teams running these guys into the ground before they can reach the end of their second contracts and forced into early retirement"....problem.

 

 

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