Danger Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Even in the same time frame don't they make somewhat the same? Idk the yearly details of Mahomes' deal. Hurts is another QB whose game isn't going to translate into his 30's and when his team starts to have to make crucial cuts to be under the cap. Yup LaMar and Jalen both are in this boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: There is a deal to made between Lamar and Ravens, if both party’s still want to do it. Even if the reported $200M Guareenteed figure ravens offered Jackson is true, the amount of years and AAV is missing. So Ravens are holding back the details. Still not certain which is a better contract (or comparably fair) Ravens offered 3 years / $133M fully guaranteed with additional guarantees up to $200M. That was before last season started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, fluhartz said: yep, by "saving money" he is costing himself millions. whether its missing games without what he wants or just not getting what he wants. Is he though? Do you think there is a club out there that wouldn't exceed the Jalen Hurts contract? Even the Ravens who I believe have no intention of signing him to that kind of deal, never has which was always the issue from the jump. How about when Burrow signs in the next week or so, Justin? Will any club then match or exceed that contract, even if by a $1 if Lamar says, Lets get it done? The minute Lamar gives up the pipe dream of a Watson contract which will never ever happen again because the Browns are idiots, he will be the highest paid QB in the NFL so did he really cost himself millions or cash in even more? Guess we'll find out in the next 2 weeks. 🤷♂️ Edited April 17, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Ravens offered 3 years / $133M fully guaranteed with additional guarantees up to $200M. That was before last season started. “Additional guarantees” without knowing if those monies are truly attainable, could just be fluff. So $44.33M for each of 3 years before last season started i gather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: Before you try and get cute saying Pat is handsome, and it's just his voice dragging him down- Here's exhibit A proving Pat is just an average looking dude: He has a beautiful right arm though ❤️ Edited April 17, 2023 by Chiefs_5627 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: “Additional guarantees” without knowing if those monies are truly attainable, could just be fluff. So $44.33M for each of 3 years before last season started i gather. It was guarantees for injury and being on the roster, so I mean assuming Lamar is healthy he'd absolutely reach those guarantees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: It was guarantees for injury and being on the roster, so I mean assuming Lamar is healthy he'd absolutely reach those guarantees. So not actually guaranteed than correct? See how you can’t compare a non-guaranteed figure to an actual guareented figure. Hurts: $176M fully guaranteed, $255M contract Lamar: $133M fully guaranteed, $200M contract Edited April 17, 2023 by CriminalMind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: So not actually guaranteed than correct? See how you can’t compare a non-guaranteed figure ($200M) to an actual guareented figure ($176M) Exactly. Had the Ravens offered this contract/structure before Hurts signed, Lamar probably takes that deal, not the BS offered. Now, it will have to be more then this They mess around and let Joe and or Justin sign too, Good MF Luck!!!🍺 Edited April 17, 2023 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Who is that weasel next to him The actor that is playing Pennywise in the Welcome to Derry TV show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Exactly. Had the Ravens offered this contract/structure before Hurts signed, Lamar probably takes that deal, not the BS offered. Now, it will have to be more then this They mess around and let Joe and or Justin sign too, Good MF Luck!!!🍺 10 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: So not actually guaranteed than correct? See how you can’t compare a non-guaranteed figure to an actual guareented figure. Hurts: $176M fully guaranteed, $255M contract Lamar: $133M fully guaranteed, $200M contract Not sure what you guys are not understanding here... The Ravens offered Lamar a better deal than the one Hurts just signed, and Lamar turned it down... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Not sure what you guys are not understanding here... The Ravens offered Lamar a better deal than the one Hurts just signed, and Lamar turned it down... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Just now, MWil23 said: Lamar and Schefter confirmed it on Twitter lol at least Lamar confirmed the $133M fully at signing part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MWil23 said: 13 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Not sure what you guys are not understanding here... The Ravens offered Lamar a better deal than the one Hurts just signed, and Lamar turned it down... Until you know what makes up Hurts $255M you can’t compare. What if the rest of Hurts contract ($255-$176M) also just kicks in later in the contract too. So than it’s back to $255M vs $200M. Also the $67M difference for Lamar ($200-133M) is for how many years after the 3 Edited April 17, 2023 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Pat Mahomes should murder his agent. How does his deal compare relative to the cap at the time though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Until you know what makes up Hurts $255M you can’t compare. What if the rest of Hurts contract ($255-$176M) also just kicks in later in the contract too. Then it would've been reported as part of his GTD money lol 7 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: So than it’s back to $255M vs $200M. Also the $67M difference for Lamar ($200-133M) is for how many years after the 3 Lamar's entire contract offer was for 3 years. It was 3 years / $133M fully gtd at signing with other guarantees up to $200M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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