Rack's 2024 Mock Draft - 10th and Final Edition (4/25/24)

[JetsandI]

4 hours ago, rackcs said:

Offensive line felt like a must in the first, especially when Fashanu was there. I thought about some different options with their third. I considered more OL, TE, maybe secondary? Wasn't sure.

 

Draft mentality wise, Jets could be relax towards OL if they get a legit LT in 1st round. Jalen McMillan could work there. Rodgers needs WR that can run long route with good body quickness and McMillan had made the case for Michael Penix Jr.   Perfect pairing I think.

[Falconof Shadows]

All of the Falcons picks make since so I can't complain 

[OneTwoSixFive]

Packers:
CB Quinyon Mitchell
S Tyler Nubin
RB Jonathon Brooks
DT/NT Maason Smith
OT Delmar Glaze

Your 5th draft had a lot of attractive picks - it looks very like the drafts I do myself, online. I would just switch the last pick to a slot corner and this is a perfect spot to get Mike Sainristil, probably the best slot corner out there. The OT I'd look for in round 4 is Boston OT Christian Mahogany, a 6'3", 330b tackle who would not be a tackle, but a guard in the NFL. The reason ? Because the Packers have just hired Hafley, the head coach at Boston as their DC and he has had all year to see Mahogany close up.

My current fave is O lineman is C/G Powers-Johnson, but he would need to be drafted at either pick 25 or 41 as he looks like an early 2nd round pick at the latest. I've been looking at RBs for the Pack as Aaron Jones, good as he is, might be in his final year with A.J.Dillon being a FA. Mostly I've been mocking guys like Shipley or Corum to the Pack, but I've always wanted to address that position a bit later and at the Senior Bowl New Hampshire RB Dylan Laube (5'10", 210) looks like that guy. He might have risen from a 5th to a 4th round selection with his showing, but that would be a fine pick outside of their 5 day 1 and 2 picks. I love his ability to catch passes well, to go with his talent running the ball. I looked to see how many times he coughs up the ball, it's about one time per 80 carries, which is not a problem.

Edited February 2 by OneTwoSixFive

[LinderFournette]

I would look at CB OL and DL more then wr.  

Id look at mims/powers-johnson, Dejean/Mitchell, and Darius Robinson.  Could see an edge but none really fit the Nielson mold(big).

Round 2 is okay but it all depends on what way we go round 1 and free agency.  A guy like Frazier, Walker makes sense.. walker is a big fast wr we lack.  Frazier cuz our center sucks. 

[INbengalfan]

Makes sense for the Bengals, but personally, I'd swap positions on the first two rounds and go Fuaga in the first and Leonard Taylor in the second.  It would be awfully ballsy to pass on a RT in the first in this class, unless they grabbed a FA previously.

[Tugboat]

On 2/1/2024 at 6:07 AM, rackcs said:

I wasn't really sure about doubling up at tackle for the Saints. I considered it but wasn't sure if it'd be overkill. I'll keep it in mind potentially for next time.

I did the first round of this earlier in the week before Powers-Johnson's massive stock rise, definitely would be an option there now. As for Guyton, he's been getting rave reviews about his size, athleticism, and ability in space. He is a RT, but I think a team with an established LT looking to the future could take him and try to mold him into a LT. A bit of a projection and forced fit but I think he's the kind of athlete Dallas likes at the position from my understanding.

Colson has gotten buzz as a top 50 sort of player. Daniel Jeremiah and Dane Brugler both had him in their top 50s. Fair enough about the team fit, but it seems like Colson is viewed in that kind of range by plugged in guys.

Offensive line felt like a must in the first, especially when Fashanu was there. I thought about some different options with their third. I considered more OL, TE, maybe secondary? Wasn't sure.

I will take the blame and F- for round 3 considering I got such good scores in rounds 1 and 2! Jags kind of had more needs than I thought going into this despite being I think a solid team overall.

 

Yeah.  Jacksonville is a bit of a weird situation.  It's not that they have a bunch of real "oh ****" crisis type positions.  But they also don't really have any positions other than QB where they couldn't use some sort of upgrade, or at least really strong depth.  Also depends a ton on how FA and Cuts shake out.

There's a lot of "serviceable" players.  Just need more difference-makers everywhere really.

[Tugboat]

On 2/2/2024 at 4:33 AM, LinderFournette said:

I would look at CB OL and DL more then wr.  

Id look at mims/powers-johnson, Dejean/Mitchell, and Darius Robinson.  Could see an edge but none really fit the Nielson mold(big).

Round 2 is okay but it all depends on what way we go round 1 and free agency.  A guy like Frazier, Walker makes sense.. walker is a big fast wr we lack.  Frazier cuz our center sucks. 

Stop encouraging a Jaguars DB pick in the first. lmao  😆  It keeps getting mocked to the Jaguars and it sucks balls.  I'd be so disappointed if that's what they end up doing.  It's just not that important.

 

And i mean, you're contradicting the heck out of yourself here.  Saying you'd look away from Brian Robinson Jr in the first in favour of other positions...but then saying in the second round, that's what you'd target because we lack a "big fast WR".  Like lol.  There's no "bigger faster" receiver in the draft than the guy mocked there in Round 1.  Why not just take them there, and get a darn good actual CB in the 2nd as this mock has it?  It makes waaaaaay more sense to do it that way.  The difference from that 1st round WR to 2nd Rounder is gonna be bigger than the 1st round CB to 2nd Rounder.

Edited February 4 by Tugboat

[Danger]

On 1/30/2024 at 10:35 PM, rackcs said:

NFL Mock Draft 5.0

 

	Round 1
	Team	Pick
1	Chicago Bears (Carolina)	Caleb Williams, QB, USC
2	Washington Commanders	Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU
3	New England Patriots	Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
4	Arizona Cardinals	Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State
5	Los Angeles Chargers	Malik Nabers, WR, LSU
6	New York Giants	Rome Odunze, WR, Washington
7	Tennessee Titans	Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
8	Atlanta Falcons	Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama
9	Chicago Bears	Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
10	New York Jets	Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
11	Minnesota Vikings	Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA
12	Denver Broncos	Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama
13	Las Vegas Raiders	Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
14	New Orleans Saints	JC Latham, OT, Alabama
15	Indianapolis Colts	Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
16	Seattle Seahawks	J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan
17	Jacksonville Jaguars	Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU
18	Cincinnati Bengals	Jer'Zahn Newton, INT, Illinois
19	Los Angeles Rams	Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State
21	Miami Dolphins	Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
22	Philadelphia Eagles	Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama
23	Houston Texans (Cleveland)	Byron Murphy II, INT, Texas
24	Dallas Cowboys	Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma
25	Green Bay Packers	Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo
26	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
27	Arizona Cardinals (Houston)	Graham Barton, OL, Duke
28	Buffalo Bills	Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
29	Detroit Lions	Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
30	Baltimore Ravens	Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU
31	Kansas City Chiefs	Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
32	San Francisco 49ers	Troy Fautanu, OG, Washington

 

	Round 2
	Team	Pick
33	Carolina Panthers	Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
34	New England Patriots	Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona
35	Arizona Cardinals	Ennis Rakestraw Jr., CB, Missouri
36	Washington Commanders	Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington
37	Los Angeles Chargers	Kris Jenkins, INT, Michigan
38	Tennessee Titans	Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
39	New York Giants	Bo Nix, QB, Oregon
40	Washington Commanders (Chicago)	Jackson Powers-Johnson, OL, Oregon
41	Green Bay Packers (New York Jets)	Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota
42	Minnesota Vikings	Darius Robinson, INT, Missouri
43	Atlanta Falcons	Michael Penix Jr., QB, Washington
44	Las Vegas Raiders	T'Vondre Sweat, INT, Texas
45	New Orleans Saints (Denver)	Chris Braswell, EDGE, Alabama
46	Indianapolis Colts	Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
47	New York Giants (Seattle)	Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State
48	Jacksonville Jaguars	TJ Tampa, CB, Iowa State
49	Cincinnati Bengals	Patrick Paul, OT, Houston
50	Philadelphia Eagles (New Orleans)	Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
51	Pittsburgh Steelers	Zach Frazier, C, West Virginia
52	Los Angeles Rams	Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
53	Philadelphia Eagles	Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
54	Cleveland Browns	Devontez Walker, WR, North Carolina
55	Miami Dolphins	Leonard Taylor, INT, Miami
56	Dallas Cowboys	Junior Colson, LB, Michigan
57	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE, Texas
58	Green Bay Packers	Jonathon Brooks, RB, Texas
59	Houston Texans	Brandon Dorlus, EDGE, Oregon
60	Buffalo Bills	Kalen King, CB, Penn State
61	Detroit Lions	Calen Bullock, S, USC
62	Baltimore Ravens	Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
63	Kansas City Chiefs	Ruke Orhorhoro, INT, Clemson
64	San Francisco 49ers	Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest

 

	Round 3
	Team	Pick
65	Carolina Panthers	Christian Haynes, OG, UConn
66	Arizona Cardinals	Adisa Isaac, EDGE, Penn State
67	Washington Commanders	Kris Abrams-Draine, CB, Missouri
68	New England Patriots	Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina
69	Los Angeles Chargers	Marshawn Kneeland, EDGE, Western Michigan
70	New York Giants	Zak Zinter, OG, Michigan
71	Arizona Cardinals (Tennessee)	McKinnley Jackson, INT, Texas A&M
72	New York Jets	Jalen McMillan, WR, Washington
73	Detroit Lions (Minnesota)	Braden Fiske, INT, Florida State
74	Atlanta Falcons	Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
75	Chicago Bears	Sedric Van Pran, C, Georgia
76	Denver Broncos	Kiran Amegadjie, OT, Yale
77	Las Vegas Raiders	Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
78	Seattle Seahawks	Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
79	Atlanta Falcons (Jacksonville)	Jamari Thrash, WR, Louisville
80	Cincinnati Bengals	Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
81	Seattle Seahawks (New Orleans)	Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
82	Indianapolis Colts	Josh Newton, CB, TCU
83	Los Angeles Rams	Javon Solomon, EDGE, Troy
84	Pittsburgh Steelers	Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
85	Cleveland Browns	Michael Hall Jr., INT, Ohio State
	Miami Dolphins	Forfeited
86	Houston Texans (Philadelphia)	Dominick Puni, OG, Kansas
87	Dallas Cowboys	Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
88	Green Bay Packers	Maason Smith, INT, LSU
89	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Jonah Elliss, EDGE, Utah
90	Arizona Cardinals (Houston)	Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
91	Green Bay Packers (Buffalo)	Delmar Glaze, OT, Maryland
92	Detroit Lions	Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State
93	Baltimore Ravens	Payton Wilson, LB, NC State
94	Kansas City Chiefs	Sion Vaki, S, Utah
95	San Francisco 49ers	Christian Jones, OT, Texas

 

 

McKinstry
Kinchens
Cooper

Early in the scouting process, but I'd love this right now.

[Forge]

My most common push back on mocks for the niners is the desire to give them cornerbacks early. Given the state of the defensive line this year and moving forward, I just don't see how that isn't a far, far bigger need than corner. All of their corners are under contract next year, including all three starters, and this regime has never taken a secondary player higher than the third round. The defense for them runs front to back. I'm good with the first pick though. 

So I'd probably switch out that second round pick for a defensive lineman (interior or edge are both options, tbh). 

[LinderFournette]

16 hours ago, Tugboat said:

Stop encouraging a Jaguars DB pick in the first. lmao  😆  It keeps getting mocked to the Jaguars and it sucks balls.  I'd be so disappointed if that's what they end up doing.  It's just not that important.

 

And i mean, you're contradicting the heck out of yourself here.  Saying you'd look away from Brian Robinson Jr in the first in favour of other positions...but then saying in the second round, that's what you'd target because we lack a "big fast WR".  Like lol.  There's no "bigger faster" receiver in the draft than the guy mocked there in Round 1.  Why not just take them there, and get a darn good actual CB in the 2nd as this mock has it?  It makes waaaaaay more sense to do it that way.  The difference from that 1st round WR to 2nd Rounder is gonna be bigger than the 1st round CB to 2nd Rounder.

Not really contradicting myself.  

Thomas just doesn't do anything for me especially when the drop from that group of CB to the next is more then the drop from Thomas to say walker. 

Much rather get a top notch trench guy(JPJ or Robinson then getting a skill wr that seems more luxury pick then anything. 

Unless it's MHJ, Odunze or Nabers falling I'm not feeling WR round 1.  Really don't want a wr round 2 cuz at that point there should be a guy we need more then a WR whatever number it ends up being. Odds say if we let Ridley walk we probably look at say Gabe Davis or another big body wr that's proven something in the NFL . 

 

In the 2nd round I also said the og choice was fine but it really depends how FA and any cuts and the first round pick go. 

[Tugboat]

15 hours ago, LinderFournette said:

Not really contradicting myself.  

Thomas just doesn't do anything for me especially when the drop from that group of CB to the next is more then the drop from Thomas to say walker. 

Much rather get a top notch trench guy(JPJ or Robinson then getting a skill wr that seems more luxury pick then anything. 

Unless it's MHJ, Odunze or Nabers falling I'm not feeling WR round 1.  Really don't want a wr round 2 cuz at that point there should be a guy we need more then a WR whatever number it ends up being. Odds say if we let Ridley walk we probably look at say Gabe Davis or another big body wr that's proven something in the NFL . 

 

In the 2nd round I also said the og choice was fine but it really depends how FA and any cuts and the first round pick go. 

 

Personally, i'm not a huge fan of Thomas Jr.  I think he's more of a "run down the field and catch" type receiver.  Not what i'd pick there in the first.  But it absolutely completely contradicts what you admitted...that the Jaguars are deeply lacking in a big body receiver who has speed and can make plays downfield.  That's literally the description of the guy mocked to the Jags here.

 

I think this is a draft where you can grab a great WR at a bargain because there are a lot of good ones early.  Why not just mine the draft where it's deep?  I've got others i'd prefer, but one of them at least.  Just don't make it a DB.

Also, side note...Nabers sucks.  He's basically just Ridley. 

 

Signing Gabe Davis to be a #??? receiver would be such a classic ****ty Jags move.  He's proven what?  He's a #3WR on a team that didn't get good enough receiver performance this year?  WTF is that and why would i want it?  He's Zay Jones in a Bills uniform.

You're calling a top WR a "luxury pick" but honestly...think for a second about how pathetic the Jaguars receivers are.  Ridley better be ******* gone.  Kirk is an enormously overpaid specialist.  Zay Jones is a competent #3ish guy.  It's absolutely dire if you step back objectively.  To waste Trevor's rookie deal without giving him proper weapons is just inexcusable.

If they land Tee Higgins in FA, sure, things change.  The only hope of that happening is connection with Lawrence personally, and throwing way more money than is reasonable at him (like Kirks dumbass awful contract i wish i could fire into the sun).  I don't think the Jaguars, even moving a lot of things around...necessarily have the money to go YOLO on a WR again.  Kirk's idiotic contract basically means signing Tee Higgins is extremely difficult.  And unless that happens...WR is not a "luxury"...it is THE biggest need on the roster.

 

 

You can find DBs anywhere.  I don't even think there's a big drop-off from your draftcrush Dejean to TJ Tampa here.  They're similar, but Tampa has a more clear position and is bigger.  Both super physical.  But look at the teams in the Owl game, the teams in the conference finals games, etc.  Very few of them spend  significant capital on the "back end" of their defense early in the draft.  Like @Forge said above...the Niners have shied away from that.  Smart teams do.  They build like Forge said...from the front end back.  Just get pressure control the run game, own the trenches, and the most mediocre of DBs will look stellar.  The most elite of DBs will look like trash if they don't have pressure in front of them to limit the timeframe.  It's not a two way street anymore.

[babyatemydingo]

Mitchell > McKinstry

[warfelg]

I'm good with Fuaga and Frazier in rounds 1 & 2, but pass on Grey in the 3rd for Roman Wilson.

[LinderFournette]

On 2/5/2024 at 3:25 PM, Tugboat said:

Like @Forge said above...the Niners have shied away from that.  Smart teams do.  They build like Forge said...from the front end back.  Just get pressure control the run game, own the trenches, and the most mediocre of DBs will look stellar.  The most elite of DBs will look like trash if they don't have pressure in front of them to limit the timeframe.  It's not a two way street anymore.

What is your definition of shying away from building up a secondary.

 

Current guys on the 49ers

ji'ayir brown 3rd round pick

hufanga 5th.

Chavarius Ward 12 million FA addition

Gipson 3 million FA Addition

Lenoir 5th

Luter 5th

Odum 3 million FA Addition(mostly for his ST)

Oliver Free agent 2.3 million FA add. Former 2nd round of falcons

Ambry Thomas 3rd round

Logan Ryan Free agent add.

Womack 5th.

 

While they might not spend much early draft capital on the position they seemingly draft DBs in round 5 constantly. 

Their mode of building also only really works when u don't have Trent Baalke as GM cuz Trent can see a need and choose to ignore it like he did last year with The IOL and 3rd edge.

[LinderFournette]

On 2/5/2024 at 3:25 PM, Tugboat said:

Why not just mine the draft where it's deep?

Cuz that is how u end up with the roster that looks like the jags.

Jags have 2 many holes to afford that luxury. 

 

As for Kirks Contract. It's not bad.  It shook up the wr market and Kirks earned the right to be a WR 2.  Posted 1 1k yard season and was clearly on pace for another had he not gotten a flukey Core injury.   U think its a coincidence our collapse happened after we lost Kirk.  Kirk is Trevors most trusted weapon.

 

Gabe Davis would probably be a WR 2 or 3.  He's a bit inconsistent but the guy is a big play machine averaging 16.7 yards a catch. He's also got some size that Trevor would probably like to have.

Nabers is better then Ridley especially as prospects go.  it's a mute point cuz I don't think he will be there at 17 but if he was Trevor would tell Trent run that pick in asap.  Nabers is closer to Chris Olave then Ridley.