Refugee Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Jones has great short area quickness, and great vision. He can be caught from behind, as we saw yesterday. Yeah, his acceleration is incredible and just allows him to get to his targets a half a step sooner than most defenders which is as much as you’ll get vs NFL athletes. Combine that with good vision to find the seams and slip tackles and he’s great for this offense. Someone built like AJD will never have that level of acceleration and although he thankfully is getting better in short yardage and is not someone you want to meet in the open field, the down in down out work we need someone who can get up to speed faster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Refugee said: Yeah, his acceleration is incredible and just allows him to get to his targets a half a step sooner than most defenders which is as much as you’ll get vs NFL athletes. Combine that with good vision to find the seams and slip tackles and he’s great for this offense. Someone built like AJD will never have that level of acceleration and although he thankfully is getting better in short yardage and is not someone you want to meet in the open field, the down in down out work we need someone who can get up to speed faster. Dillon is for December games in Lambeau, when slippery turf can't be accelerated on very well. We need to draft a younger version of Jones this April, though. Taylor ain't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: Equal parts not a good look for Alexander and LaFleur there. I get that he's trying to pump up the defense in his response but just say defer man. Glad the refs were reasonable about his intent. You've set the precedent that guys get to be captain in their hometown or against teams they used to play for all year Matt. Not a good look at all to not make Jaire a captain for this one. Definitely seems like Ja is well loved by the players in the locker room and not so much by the coaches, but ultimately I except Gute to say, tough **** Matt, he's the #1 paid CB in the game so you can pretend you love him until he's gone. Jaire has had issues with Barry for a good couple of seasons. Maybe he liked that the gameplan was going to be more aggressive and wanted that from the outset to not let Barry slink into the default mode. MLF going to need to hit on the next DC that can get the best out of Jaire..... or this will become commonplace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Zycho32 said: So to summarize, Joe Barry had just dropped his trousers and squatted down to deliver some diarrhea in our stockings when somebody got a grandfather clock and KNOCKED HIM DA F*CK OUT. Is that what I watched? I drank quite a bit at a party after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Dillon is for December games in Lambeau, when slippery turf can't be accelerated on very well. We need to draft a younger version of Jones this April, though. Taylor ain't it. Taylor is a poor man's James Starks. He is a decent replacement for Dillon, when Dillon can't go. Using Taylor at the end of the game to bleed clock was the right move. He is stouter than Jones, and Dillon has a broken thumb. It is a similar situation that Bo Melton is a poor man's Jayden Reed. We will probably see Melton as long as Reed is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pugger Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Equal parts not a good look for Alexander and LaFleur there. I get that he's trying to pump up the defense in his response but just say defer man. Glad the refs were reasonable about his intent. You've set the precedent that guys get to be captain in their hometown or against teams they used to play for all year Matt. Not a good look at all to not make Jaire a captain for this one. Definitely seems like Ja is well loved by the players in the locker room and not so much by the coaches, but ultimately I except Gute to say, tough **** Matt, he's the #1 paid CB in the game so you can pretend you love him until he's gone. What makes you suspect JA is not as loved by his coaches? Many say he says stuff but I'm not on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Best/worst PFF Grades: Top 5 offense 1. RB Aaron Jones: 81.4 2. WR Bo Melton: 79.1 3. QB Jordan Love: 77.4 4. WR Romeo Doubs: 71.5 5. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 68.3 Jones produced five runs of at least 10 yards and 100 yards after first contact while forcing six missed tackles and creating eight first downs. Melton made four catches — gaining three first downs, including one on third down — on just 14 routes run. He made a contested catch and also ran once for seven yards. Love hit two passes over 20 yards, didn’t have a turnover-worthy play and was once again very good from clean pockets. Doubs caught four of five targets, made two contested catches, forced two missed tackles and had a perfect 158.3 passer rating when targeted. He was dinged by a fumble. Wicks caught both of his targets for 29 yards and a touchdown over 13 routes. Top 5 defense 1. DL Karl Brooks: 80.0 2. OLB Lukas Van Ness: 71.1 3. OLB Preston Smith: 70.3 4. DL Colby Wooden: 67.8 5. S Jonathan Owens: 65.4 Brooks delivered two pressures, including a quarterback hit, over 17 total snaps. Van Ness had two quarterback hits and a run stop. Smith led the team with five pressures, including two sacks and two quarterback hits. Wooden had an assisted tackle and received a solid run grade on eight snaps. Owens was tied for the team lead with three stops, and he was in on six tackles without a miss. Bottom 5 offense 1. WR Samori Toure: 38.2 2. LT Rasheed Walker: 40.6 3. C Josh Myers: 41.3 4. RG Sean Rhyan: 44.8 5. RT Zach Tom: 46.6 Toure dropped a pass and didn’t catch either of his targets over just six passing snaps. Walker gave up a pressure, had a penalty and received the lowest run-blocking grade of the offensive line. Myers gave up a sack and struggled in the run game. Rhyan played half the snaps at right guard and received poor grades in the run game. Tom gave up two pressures and wasn’t effective in the run game. Bottom 5 defense 1. DL Devonte Wyatt: 40.2 2. S Anthony Johnson Jr.: 40.7 3. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 43.3 4. CB Keisean Nixon: 51.4 5. OLB Rashan Gary: 55.9 Wyatt missed a tackle and committed two penalties. Johnson gave up three catches in coverage, missed three tackles and had a 15-yard penalty. McDuffie gave up three catches, including a 30-yarder, and committed a penalty. Nixon allowed four catches on four targets, including three catches for first downs and two over 20 yards. Gary had three pressures, including two hits, but he also missed a tackle and earned a poor run defense grade (likely as a result of losing the edge on a touchdown run). Special teams Sunday’s win was the Packers’ second-lowest graded game on special teams in 2023. Josiah Deguara missed a tackle, Lukas Van Ness committed a drive-extending penalty on special teams and Anders Carlson missed an extra point after a high snap. Daniel Whelan had a net punting average of 47.5. Keisean Nixon had a 38-yard kickoff return but averaged just 3.0 yards across two punt returns. Quarterback Jordan Love: 77.4 Love was under pressure on just five of 30 dropbacks, and he was excellent from clean pockets, averaging 8.2 yards per attempt with an adjusted completion percentage of almost 80.0 and a passer rating of 116.6. He hit on two of five passes over 20 yards, took just one sack and didn’t have a play deemed turnover worthy. Packers receivers dropped three of his passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said: Best/worst PFF Grades: Top 5 offense 1. RB Aaron Jones: 81.4 2. WR Bo Melton: 79.1 3. QB Jordan Love: 77.4 4. WR Romeo Doubs: 71.5 5. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 68.3 Jones produced five runs of at least 10 yards and 100 yards after first contact while forcing six missed tackles and creating eight first downs. Melton made four catches — gaining three first downs, including one on third down — on just 14 routes run. He made a contested catch and also ran once for seven yards. Love hit two passes over 20 yards, didn’t have a turnover-worthy play and was once again very good from clean pockets. Doubs caught four of five targets, made two contested catches, forced two missed tackles and had a perfect 158.3 passer rating when targeted. He was dinged by a fumble. Wicks caught both of his targets for 29 yards and a touchdown over 13 routes. Top 5 defense 1. DL Karl Brooks: 80.0 2. OLB Lukas Van Ness: 71.1 3. OLB Preston Smith: 70.3 4. DL Colby Wooden: 67.8 5. S Jonathan Owens: 65.4 Brooks delivered two pressures, including a quarterback hit, over 17 total snaps. Van Ness had two quarterback hits and a run stop. Smith led the team with five pressures, including two sacks and two quarterback hits. Wooden had an assisted tackle and received a solid run grade on eight snaps. Owens was tied for the team lead with three stops, and he was in on six tackles without a miss. Bottom 5 offense 1. WR Samori Toure: 38.2 2. LT Rasheed Walker: 40.6 3. C Josh Myers: 41.3 4. RG Sean Rhyan: 44.8 5. RT Zach Tom: 46.6 Toure dropped a pass and didn’t catch either of his targets over just six passing snaps. Walker gave up a pressure, had a penalty and received the lowest run-blocking grade of the offensive line. Myers gave up a sack and struggled in the run game. Rhyan played half the snaps at right guard and received poor grades in the run game. Tom gave up two pressures and wasn’t effective in the run game. Bottom 5 defense 1. DL Devonte Wyatt: 40.2 2. S Anthony Johnson Jr.: 40.7 3. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 43.3 4. CB Keisean Nixon: 51.4 5. OLB Rashan Gary: 55.9 Wyatt missed a tackle and committed two penalties. Johnson gave up three catches in coverage, missed three tackles and had a 15-yard penalty. McDuffie gave up three catches, including a 30-yarder, and committed a penalty. Nixon allowed four catches on four targets, including three catches for first downs and two over 20 yards. Gary had three pressures, including two hits, but he also missed a tackle and earned a poor run defense grade (likely as a result of losing the edge on a touchdown run). Special teams Sunday’s win was the Packers’ second-lowest graded game on special teams in 2023. Josiah Deguara missed a tackle, Lukas Van Ness committed a drive-extending penalty on special teams and Anders Carlson missed an extra point after a high snap. Daniel Whelan had a net punting average of 47.5. Keisean Nixon had a 38-yard kickoff return but averaged just 3.0 yards across two punt returns. Quarterback Jordan Love: 77.4 Love was under pressure on just five of 30 dropbacks, and he was excellent from clean pockets, averaging 8.2 yards per attempt with an adjusted completion percentage of almost 80.0 and a passer rating of 116.6. He hit on two of five passes over 20 yards, took just one sack and didn’t have a play deemed turnover worthy. Packers receivers dropped three of his passes. How in the **** can our whole OL be "bad" when there was a clean pocket and Jones had a huge day? PFF a whole joke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HighCalebR said: How in the **** can our whole OL be "bad" when there was a clean pocket and Jones had a huge day? PFF a whole joke Jones had a big day, but 4 of the OL struggled to run block. PFF in a nutshell. Edited December 26, 2023 by Mazrimiv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: Jones had a big day, but 4 of the OL struggled to run block. PFF in a nutshell. I'm thinking Jenkins and Runyan aren't very much higher either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 At least we finally had a skill position crack 100 yards in rushing or receiving. Congrats to Aaron Jones for making it happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, vegas492 said: At least we finally had a skill position crack 100 yards in rushing or receiving. Congrats to Aaron Jones for making it happen. Congrats to LaFleur for giving him double digit carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Congrats to LaFleur for giving him double digit carries. It was about time, right??? Offense just looks better when he's out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, vegas492 said: It was about time, right??? Offense just looks better when he's out there. Over/Under 30 touches until he's injured again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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