Mazrimiv Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 When is the last time GB had a 3rd OLB who could provide any kind of pass rush? Zombo? The lack of OLB depth is especially hard to understand given the extensive injury history of both Matthews and Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: When is the last time GB had a 3rd OLB who could provide any kind of pass rush? Zombo? The lack of OLB depth is especially hard to understand given the extensive injury history of both Matthews and Perry. That's probably the most frustrating part. But it also needs to be taken in context. The Packers haven't exactly been in a position to draft a significant EDGE prospect. Outside of TJ Watt, there really wasn't an EDGE who was of value that was available when the Packers pick. And Carl Lawson had HUGE medical red flags that probably took him off the board. And previous years didn't really have much else to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: When is the last time GB had a 3rd OLB who could provide any kind of pass rush? Zombo? The lack of OLB depth is especially hard to understand given the extensive injury history of both Matthews and Perry. I agree, edge rusher (OLB in the 3-4) and CB are the two most important position to a defense and the Packers healthy depth at those positions by the years end has completely sucked... I'm not sure any defensive coach could do that well with this amount of lack of healthy talent... while Capers might not be the best coach... he's seriously had his hands tied to some degree, as it's hard to be creative when your weak at the two most important positions of your units. Capers is at his best when he has many options and is allowed to be creative... lately due to injuries and lack of talent, he hasn't been allowed to be that creative and between the injuries, lack of talent and lack of creative... the defense has sucked. 6 minutes ago, CWood21 said: That's probably the most frustrating part. But it also needs to be taken in context. The Packers haven't exactly been in a position to draft a significant EDGE prospect. Outside of TJ Watt, there really wasn't an EDGE who was of value that was available when the Packers pick. And Carl Lawson had HUGE medical red flags that probably took him off the board. And previous years didn't really have much else to offer. I honestly didn't think the Packers were going to take Watt at their spot... it just felt too fan driven and a lot of the ratings had him lower... I still think the Packers thought more of their options would drop to them in the 2nd than what did. As for the 4th... I felt SURE that it was gonna be Lawson... I mean we just got Adams, so it was gonna be Auburn DL in back to back picks..... but nope. Though Vince Biegel has stepped up quicker than I thought he would considering he got zero training camp. Will be interesting to see what he's like after a training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 hours ago, Chili said: Possible co-ordinator availablity Vic Fangio 59 Bears Paul Guenther 46 Bengals Experienced position coaches Perry Fewell 55 Jaguars Karl Dunbar 50 Alabama Raheem Morris 41 Atlanta College Football co-ordinators Dave Aranda 41 LSU Jim Leonhard 35 Wisconsin NFL position coaches Brian Flores 36 Patriots Aaron Glenn 45 Saints Micheal Barrow 47 Seattle Anthony Weaver 37 Houston Nick Eason 37 Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooters22 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It's supposedly a 50/50 proposition that Jack Del Rio gets fired as HC of the Raiders, I'm not huge into retreads but I'd definitely want him interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'm not sure how I would feel about it but I bet Marvin Lewis gets a long look, assuming he gets fired. Has he ever coached a 3-4? They did in Balt at least some of the time correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Beast said: I agree, edge rusher (OLB in the 3-4) and CB are the two most important position to a defense and the Packers healthy depth at those positions by the years end has completely sucked... I'm not sure any defensive coach could do that well with this amount of lack of healthy talent... while Capers might not be the best coach... he's seriously had his hands tied to some degree, as it's hard to be creative when your weak at the two most important positions of your units. Capers is at his best when he has many options and is allowed to be creative... lately due to injuries and lack of talent, he hasn't been allowed to be that creative and between the injuries, lack of talent and lack of creative... the defense has Exactly. The argument isn't we aren't talented, just not good enough in those 2 positions. It can be fixed, and relatively quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Every team in the league knows what's coming from a Dom Capers defense. They all have the book on him these days .. he's been here for about a decade, and has been running the same schemes for 30 years or so. Time to make our opponents have to tear up their notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: When is the last time GB had a 3rd OLB who could provide any kind of pass rush? Zombo? The lack of OLB depth is especially hard to understand given the extensive injury history of both Matthews and Perry. Well, every team wishes they had 2 much less 3 competent edge guys. The teams that do are generally really good. They get a lot of money, are highly drafted, and each team wants more than 1. Hard to build up that stable drafting late all the time unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Well, every team wishes they had 2 much less 3 competent edge guys. The teams that do are generally really good. They get a lot of money, are highly drafted, and each team wants more than 1. Hard to build up that stable drafting late all the time unfortunately. We're too busy drafting cornerbacks who get exposed because he have no pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyThing Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Well, every team wishes they had 2 much less 3 competent edge guys. The teams that do are generally really good. They get a lot of money, are highly drafted, and each team wants more than 1. Hard to build up that stable drafting late all the time unfortunately. Are we pretending that Perry & Matthews don't get a lot of money now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenrik Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: When is the last time GB had a 3rd OLB who could provide any kind of pass rush? Zombo? The lack of OLB depth is especially hard to understand given the extensive injury history of both Matthews and Perry. Id say the last three years with Peppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheOnlyThing said: Are we pretending that Perry & Matthews don't get a lot of money now? Did you read the opposite of what I wrote or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 50 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: I'm not sure how I would feel about it but I bet Marvin Lewis gets a long look, assuming he gets fired. Has he ever coached a 3-4? They did in Balt at least some of the time correct? I'd put less than a 0% chance that Marvin Lewis gets even the slightest look by Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 We've also drafted quite a few DL pretty darn early the last few years considering the position needs 3 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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