Brat&Beer Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, {Family Ghost} said: Christian Watson seems like a Packers lock to me as well. Only if they take him at 22. Otherwise, I could see Chiefs trading up from 29 to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Christian Watson seems like a Packers lock to me as well. Turning 23 before he plays a down in the NFL would be the issue here. Maybe they make a "win now" exception but is he really "win now". I'm sure they love his athleticism though. Edited April 15, 2022 by Mr Anonymous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Turning 23 before he plays a down in the NFL would be the issue here. Maybe they make a "win now" exception but is he really "win now". I'm sure they love his athleticism though. He's not a win now guy .. will take him a few years to put it all together. I don't see 23 as a huge issue though. 24-25 is a different story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: You forgot Pickens. For me, there isn't enough game film to watch to really know what Pickens is or is not right now. I love the measureables, it's the production and tape that is lacking. But yah, throw him in there too. He's just more of an unknown to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampfgeist Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 This team is not drafting players to "win now" and I don't believe they'll adjust their draft strategy with some artificial timeline. They are adding pieces in FA to win now and using the draft to hopefully add long-term fixtures to this team. If they identify a player they think has the potential to develop into a Pro-Bowl/All-Pro talent at #22/#28 they aren't going to hesitate to take them because it might take a year or two of development. Certainly they expect high draft picks to contribute but it's not going to set this franchise back if their first round pick contributes marginally more than say the Ram's first or second round picks last year did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) . Edited April 15, 2022 by Chili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo972 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Chili said: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, {Family Ghost} said: Christian Watson seems like a Packers lock to me as well. Maybe as a trade up from one of their SRPs. But not at 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Maybe as a trade up from one of their SRPs. But not at 22. He's essentially MVS but can play special teams. Can return kicks and pretty good at it. That being said have a real hard time taking this guy at #22 let alone #28. High ceiling and low floor type. If they are really high on him maybe trade up in the second round. Otherwise pass where I'm at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr Anonymous said: Turning 23 before he plays a down in the NFL would be the issue here. I understand and appreciate the Packers reticence in drafting " older" players. Makes sense on the contract side What I'd be interested in exploring is if that's true across all positions. Is it possible that an "older" DL is better than a "younger" DL in terms of muscle growth, filling out and learning the nuances of the trenches ? Is it possible that 1 or more positions aren't as age-critical as others ? The financial side surely makes sense, but maybe some positions are actually better with age ? I'm always looking for market inefficiencies...and while the contract/$$ isn't position-specific...I wonder if some other factors come into play in making these age-impacted draft decisions. One of the other factors that comes into play with regards to age is the amazing work from Malcolm Gladwell's on the Outliers. In that book, he talks about the inherent advantages that some kids got based on their birth dates. Being an older 7th grader ( Sept birthday) vs a younger 7th grader ( July birthday) afforded all kinds of advantages to the "older" kids who grew sooner, excelled vs their peers and got better coaching and better opportunities. The entire field of chrono-sports is really interesting and the Packers age criteria are just one example https://www.scienceforsport.com/chronological-biological-technical/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Scoremore said: He's essentially MVS but can play special teams. Can return kicks and pretty good at it. That being said have a real hard time taking this guy at #22 let alone #28. High ceiling and low floor type. If they are really high on him maybe trade up in the second round. Otherwise pass where I'm at. He really isn’t “essentially MVS”. Similar height, weight and speed does not make a good comparison. Watson plays a very different game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, gopackgo972 said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 18 hours ago, NFLGURU said: Just wait until he takes his jersey off at Lambeau in December and runs off the field during a game.🤣🤣 Then he becomes an instant hero! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr Anonymous said: Turning 23 before he plays a down in the NFL would be the issue here. Maybe they make a "win now" exception but is he really "win now". I'm sure they love his athleticism though. I'm not too worried about that. It definitely is a pattern for the Packers though. But if he is 23, we have him until 28. Then a 4 year deal has him until he is 32. Unless the guy is a superstar, the Packers usually don't pay guys that third (real) contract anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 From PFF Lowest completion % allowed in press coverage among rookie CB’s last season: Eric Stokes: 43.8% Patrick Surtain II: 47.8% Greg Newsome II: 51.4% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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