Siman08/OH Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, squire12 said: 2012, 2013 and 2014 GB started 1-2 in each of those seasons. That lead to the often slow starting. Wins and losses are 1 thing, perception (relative to expectations) of how the Rodgers led offense performs is another. This is what i was alluding too, it’s easy to look at the immediate sample and forget that it wasn’t always that way. And unfortunately last year seems like a complete fail regardless of how we started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Warren Sharp at Sharp Football has a piece out on the bears offensive improvements and other changes he expects under Nagy (who studied under Pederson and Reid) http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2018/efficiency-explosion-headed-for-the-windy-city "There is no doubt with all of the coaching improvements, personnel improvements and typical QB growth from year one to year two that we will see a virtual offensive efficiency explosion in Chicago. I wish they didn’t play in arguably the most competitive division in the NFL, and I wish they didn’t such an overall difficult schedule. But for the reasons described above, there is no doubt in my mind the 2018 Bears are in a far better position to succeed. And I’m excited to watch the growth. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, squire12 said: 2012, 2013 and 2014 GB started 1-2 in each of those seasons. That lead to the often slow starting. Wins and losses are 1 thing, perception (relative to expectations) of how the Rodgers led offense performs is another. This year MN starts 1-3 or 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Arthur Penske said: This year MN starts 1-3 or 2-2. No kidding- Minnesota's first five weeks are brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I've been told that the bears interior OL is quite talented.... Should be an early barometer for the Packers remodeled DL and Pettine's ability to maximize their impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 From Packers Wire: https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/04/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-has-dominated-bears-during-career/ "Aaron Rodgers has completed more passes, for more yards and more touchdowns against the Bears.... ....than against any other NFL team in his career" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: From Packers Wire: https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/04/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-has-dominated-bears-during-career/ "Aaron Rodgers has completed more passes, for more yards and more touchdowns against the Bears.... ....than against any other NFL team in his career" This just reads that he has more passing stats against the Bears than the Lions or Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: This just reads that he has more passing stats against the Bears than the Lions or Vikings. Nah.... It reads that the bears hate Rodgers' dominance over them so much - that they'd be willing to spend $ 141 million and 3 draft picks on one pass rusher to hopefully put an end to their decade-long nightmare.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 hours ago, squire12 said: 2012, 2013 and 2014 GB started 1-2 in each of those seasons. That lead to the often slow starting. Wins and losses are 1 thing, perception (relative to expectations) of how the Rodgers led offense performs is another. I definitely think it was a misled perception. The arbitrary 3-game cutoff always seemed like some cherrypicking by people searching for things to place blame on. The sample is so small, changing the outcome of 1 of the 3 games can swing the %'s wildly from 33% (5-win team) to 67% (11-win team). Which can be misleading, especially due to the flukey nature of 2 of those losses (Fail-Mary game & 50-yd walkoff fumble return by Cincy). Not to mention the mistaken underlying assumption that a team's strength-of-schedule stays at a uniform level throughout the season. All 3 of those 3-game stretches featured a tougher than average SOS, with all 6 of the losses coming against 11+ win teams and 5 of the 6 losses coming on road games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, TransientTexan said: I definitely think it was a misled perception. The arbitrary 3-game cutoff always seemed like some cherrypicking by people searching for things to place blame on. The sample is so small, changing the outcome of 1 of the 3 games can swing the %'s wildly from 33% (5-win team) to 67% (11-win team). Which can be misleading, especially due to the flukey nature of 2 of those losses (Fail-Mary game & 50-yd walkoff fumble return by Cincy). Not to mention the mistaken underlying assumption that a team's strength-of-schedule stays at a uniform level throughout the season. All 3 of those 3-game stretches featured a tougher than average SOS, with all 6 of the losses coming against 11+ win teams and 5 of the 6 losses coming on road games. All fair points. So it could be stated that the last 3 years of "better starts" (based on W/L record) might be an easier schedule or some other favorable variable unrelated to the quality of the team itself. Also important that 3 games is just shy of 20% of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 No guarantee he’ll even play this Sunday, but if so - if even on a limited basis - what’s the over/under on Mack getting his first sack as a Bear? I’m gonna take the under - which in my mind is zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Shanedorf said: I've been told that the bears interior OL is quite talented.... Should be an early barometer for the Packers remodeled DL and Pettine's ability to maximize their impact I suspect a steady dose of Howard and Cohen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesehawk Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I was looking for a high quality picture for a great ****post and was shocked when I couldn't find an image of Aaron Rodgers riding a bear. I'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Crew win the series after destroying the Cubs tonight and going for the sweep tomorrow and hopefully the Pack pound the Bears on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyToThump Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 23 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said: About 1/3 of Ty Montgomery's total career production has been at the expense of the Chicago Bears. Lol. Good point. However, I have no faith in Monty having any big games until he can prove he isn't made of glass. Here's to hoping he surprises me and continues hunting and harvesting those bears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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