Dessie Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, BayRaider said: He had a great four game stretch, and I thought he had turned a corner. He didn’t. I won’t be fooled again. . It was after week 11 when we were 6-4. You said Carr was having a fantastic season, the season you wanted him to have, and said he was playing so well we shouldn’t be looking to draft a replacement. Quit whining, you are happy bleating on post after post saying the same thing then when your contradictions are highlighted you always start crying. Edited January 26, 2020 by Dessie 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 11:50 PM, raidr4life said: Not True if you not scoring points in the 2nd half of games. Our inability to score after the half has more to do with our coach's half time adjustments than QB play. You placing the blame solely on D. Carr is just ridiculous. I hate that I have to comment on such ridiculous posts, but I just can't read this and allow you to think you're completely right. This is literally one of the worst analyses I've ever seen. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 1:05 AM, Dessie said: It was after week 11 when we were 6-4. You said Carr was having a fantastic season, the season you wanted him to have, and said he was playing so well we shouldn’t be looking to draft a replacement. Quit whining, you are happy bleating on post after post saying the same thing then when your contradictions are highlighted you always start crying. You literally cry in every post you make. These are the only type of posts you make, literally. Never once have you contributed with any opinions or insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Jerry said: Our inability to score after the half has more to do with our coach's half time adjustments than QB play. You placing the blame solely on D. Carr is just ridiculous. I hate that I have to comment on such ridiculous posts, but I just can't read this and allow you to think you're completely right. This is literally one of the worst analyses I've ever seen. Then you dont watch him play, you can keep blaming everybody and they mama if you so choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Then you dont watch him play, you can keep blaming everybody and they mama if you so choose. Got me there bro. Definitely never watch Raiders games. Haven't watched in years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Jerry said: Our inability to score after the half has more to do with our coach's half time adjustments than QB play. You placing the blame solely on D. Carr is just ridiculous. I hate that I have to comment on such ridiculous posts, but I just can't read this and allow you to think you're completely right. This is literally one of the worst analyses I've ever seen. There are a million reasons why we didn't play well in 2nd halves, especially down the stretch. Massive amounts of injuries to an already talent depleted team certainly didn't' help. But let's push narratives because it's easier. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: There are a million reasons why we didn't play well in 2nd halves, especially down the stretch. Massive amounts of injuries to an already talent depleted team certainly didn't' help. But let's push narratives because it's easier. Meh Defense was just as depleted if not more than the offense but people still blame the defense. It’s the nfl no one cares about excuses you either produce or you don’t imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Meh Defense was just as depleted if not more than the offense but people still blame the defense. It’s the nfl no one cares about excuses you either produce or you don’t imo Yup this is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm' pretty sure the GM does care and it affects his evaluation of the qb as well as the whole team. But what do I know. I'm not talking about the defense or offense in particular. We had tons of injuries on both sides of the ball. It's a large part of what caused us to go 1-5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Pretty sure y’all lean more on the defense being the problem than the offense but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 17 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Meh Defense was just as depleted if not more than the offense but people still blame the defense. It’s the nfl no one cares about excuses you either produce or you don’t imo I'm not only blaming the defense. I just listed one of the handful of reasons why we fell apart down the stretch. J. Jacobs being injured and T. Williams' nagging foot injury both played a huge part in our offense going to crap down the stretch as well. Derek Carr can't turn D. Washington and J. Richard into J. Jacobs. You can't just motivate a person to become more talented. J. Richard and D. Washington will never play at J. Jacob's level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jerry said: I'm not only blaming the defense. I just listed one of the handful of reasons why we fell apart down the stretch. J. Jacobs being injured and T. Williams' nagging foot injury both played a huge part in our offense going to crap down the stretch as well. Derek Carr can't turn D. Washington and J. Richard into J. Jacobs. You can't just motivate a person to become more talented. J. Richard and D. Washington will never play at J. Jacob's level. Yea you’re right how the hell did Russ will motivate 7th rounder Chris Carson or arod motivate Aaron “5th round pick” Jones Etc etc secret: you keep the defense honest by throwing past 10+yards Edited January 28, 2020 by NCOUGHMAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Jerry said: I'm not only blaming the defense. I just listed one of the handful of reasons why we fell apart down the stretch. J. Jacobs being injured and T. Williams' nagging foot injury both played a huge part in our offense going to crap down the stretch as well. Derek Carr can't turn D. Washington and J. Richard into J. Jacobs. You can't just motivate a person to become more talented. J. Richard and D. Washington will never play at J. Jacob's level. Washington didnt play awful. And I dont like washinton at all. Yeah he not gonna break tackles at the rate jacobs can. But ncough is right. We had a hard time keeping defenses honest. I cant wait to see what Jacobs do without an injury and with a passing game that back defenses up a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dante9876 said: Washington didnt play awful. And I dont like washinton at all. Yeah he not gonna break tackles at the rate jacobs can. But ncough is right. We had a hard time keeping defenses honest. I cant wait to see what Jacobs do without an injury and with a passing game that back defenses up a bit. I think we can all agree that Carr's inability to overcome deficiencies was a problem but also that he is not the only problem. Now whether or not Carr can be a really QB again with a good team around him is unanswered. Only way to answer this is to get a decent backup to come in if Carr fails and see what he can do. Cook, Manuel, Peterman, Glennon, etc... would all be ranked 30-32 as starters. If we had Tannehill on this team and he did the same thing in Oakland is anyone trying to go with Carr as the starter next year? I would not even if I did not resign Tannehill. Edited January 29, 2020 by drfrey13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, dante9876 said: Washington didnt play awful. And I dont like washinton at all. Yeah he not gonna break tackles at the rate jacobs can. But ncough is right. We had a hard time keeping defenses honest. I cant wait to see what Jacobs do without an injury and with a passing game that back defenses up a bit. Exactly imagine how much more productive josh will be if we keep defenses honest. No matter the personnel. You have warm bodies at wr give um a shot deep give the defense something to think about back the safeties up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Exactly imagine how much more productive josh will be if we keep defenses honest. No matter the personnel. You have warm bodies at wr give um a shot deep give the defense something to think about back the safeties up. Exactly people act like teams dont have tons of film of Carr throwing behind the LOS, not taking any deep shots makes him so easy to defend. God if teams couldn't just concentrate on Jacobs. As good as Waller was too, Car held him back because he's so horrible in the redzone. I can imagine what our star players would look like with a Qb who could actually deliver. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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