Xenos Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: It's pretty unfair to compare countries with vastly different population densities. For example, New Zealand has 18 people per square kilometer while the United States has 36 people per square kilometer. Then you consider that: 32,000 died in New York. 15,000 in New Jersey 10,000 in California 10,000 in Texas Looking specifically at Texas: 1,500 in Harris County (Houston) 800 in Dallas County It's just really stupid to act like America is so far behind these other countries. Over HALF of America's cases come from 7 states (California, Florida, Texas, New York, Georgia, Illinois). New Zealand is about the size of 2 states on average. New Zealand has a population of 4.8 million people. That would put a country the geographical size of 2 states at the 25th most populous state in the country if it was a part of the country. So you could act like New Zealand, an ISLAND, is so much smarter and better than the United States, but it's really not. It's a lot easier to control a pandemic when you're an island with two distinct landmasses. Those are some good points. But Kiwis also are more compliant when it comes to believing that their government is doing what is best for them. Helps that the leader is also more competent. I would argue that we would be doing better if we had a more united plan vs having individual states deal with the pandemic. Imagine if the EU did the same thing as the US with the individual countries. They would not be doing better now. Edited August 11, 2020 by Xenos 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acowboys62 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: That's just reason one why I do not understand why anybody would ever willingly live in a big city. You could literally put the entire world's 7 billion people population into the state of Texas and have the same population density as New York City and you wonder why New York was an epicenter. More people, smaller space = better chance of it spreading. Cities are gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: That's just reason one why I do not understand why anybody would ever willingly live in a big city. You could literally put the entire world's 7 billion people population into the state of Texas and have the same population density as New York City and you wonder why New York was an epicenter. More people, smaller space = better chance of it spreading. Downside with smaller towns is hospitals are easily overwhelmed if or when the pandemic did catch up there. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/rural-america-hardest-hit-by-covid-19-outbreak#A-potential-recipe-for-disaster Quote The 15 percent of people in the United States who live in rural areas are largely a higher-risk population that’s particularly vulnerable to serious outcomes with COVID-19. In addition, many people in rural areas live 30 or more miles away from the nearest hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) So yeah, apparently 97K kids tested positive over the last two weeks of July.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/covid-19-kids-school-children-coronavirus-in-person-instruction/ Edited August 11, 2020 by Xenos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acowboys62 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Xenos said: Downside with smaller towns is hospitals are easily overwhelmed if or when the pandemic did catch up there. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/rural-america-hardest-hit-by-covid-19-outbreak#A-potential-recipe-for-disaster All hospitals allover the country are at risk of being easily overwhelmed when there is a novel virus pandemic and people not taking proper precautions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acowboys62 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Is this second wave in parts of the country on the decline or has testing just peaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Mask update: Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/mask-test-duke-covid/2020/08/10/4f2bb888-db18-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html Supplemental: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Is this second wave in parts of the country on the decline or has testing just peaked? I think we’re still in the first wave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Xenos said: I think we’re still in the first wave. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, TVScout said: Mask update: Wearing a neck gaiter may be worse than no mask at all, researchers find https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/mask-test-duke-covid/2020/08/10/4f2bb888-db18-11ea-b205-ff838e15a9a6_story.html Supplemental: https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083 I really don’t understand how it could be worse. *didnt read the articles like a true schmuck, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winitall Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: It's pretty unfair to compare countries with vastly different population densities. For example, New Zealand has 18 people per square kilometer while the United States has 36 people per square kilometer. Then you consider that: 32,000 died in New York. 15,000 in New Jersey 10,000 in California 10,000 in Texas Looking specifically at Texas: 1,500 in Harris County (Houston) 800 in Dallas County It's just really stupid to act like America is so far behind these other countries. Over HALF of America's cases come from 7 states (California, Florida, Texas, New York, Georgia, Illinois). New Zealand is about the size of 2 states on average. New Zealand has a population of 4.8 million people. That would put a country the geographical size of 2 states at the 25th most populous state in the country if it was a part of the country. So you could act like New Zealand, an ISLAND, is so much smarter and better than the United States, but it's really not. It's a lot easier to control a pandemic when you're an island with two distinct landmasses. Okay great, now do South Korea. South Korea has a population density that is almost 15 times the US. 527 per square kilometer versus 36. Seoul is more densely populated than New York City. Yet, they’ve had only 305 total deaths and only 13 in Seoul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just now, winitall said: Okay great, now do South Korea. South Korea has a population density that is almost 15 times the US. 527 per square kilometer versus 36. Seoul is more densely populated than New York City. Yet, they’ve had only 305 total deaths and only 13 in Seoul. Granted, but those places it was considered socially polite to wear masks BEFORE Covid broke out. Also, not saying it's right or wrong, but the freedom Americans have versus the freedom South Koreans don't have played its part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizeGuy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, acowboys62 said: Is this second wave in parts of the country on the decline or has testing just peaked? Some areas are doing better, but many seem to be testing way less. Texas (21.4%) and Florida (17.3%) are still hitting really high on their percent positive, though the infection rate is low, which is confusing to me. Arizona, on the other hand, is hitting a bit lower on their percent positive (12.8%). Apparently, Florida had their highest new hospitalizations this past week @ over 3300. It's going to get rough there over the next month or so. Edited August 11, 2020 by WizeGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I really don’t understand how it could be worse. *didnt read the articles like a true schmuck, but still... "The high droplet count could be linked to the neck gaiter’s porous fabric breaking up bigger particles into many little ones that are more likely to hang around in the air longer, Fischer said in the video. This effect makes wearing them possibly “counterproductive,” he added." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizeGuy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just reading Arizona's COVID subreddit, and many of the posters there are claiming there's been a culture shift in the past couple of months towards masks. They're saying many people now wears masks out and about. That could be a reason why they're improving so rapidly. That + bars and restaurants being closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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