jetfuel34 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: The history of these highly ranked TEs recently hasn't been good. I find it rather funny that so many are against a 1st round RB but are pro 1st round TE. I'm against TE and RB in the first round. There are too many bust and a good OL can make a good RB. Zeke is a classic example. He had one of the best OL and killed it. Then his OL goes down and he is average at best and now is getting older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heymangold Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jetfuel34 said: I'm against TE and RB in the first round. There are too many bust and a good OL can make a good RB. Zeke is a classic example. He had one of the best OL and killed it. Then his OL goes down and he is average at best and now is getting older. Zeke had his worst year this year and still had 979 rushing yards, another 338 in the air and 8 combine TDs, without his starting QB and majority of the o-line. Ask yourself this, when’s the last time a Jets RB has EVER come close to that kind of production? The more I look into it, the more I’m OK with taking a RB or TE early. The best players at their respective positions are more often then not taken early. CMC, Zeke, Jacobs, etc. Gronk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, Heymangold said: Zeke had his worst year this year and still had 979 rushing yards, another 338 in the air and 8 combine TDs, without his starting QB and majority of the o-line. Ask yourself this, when’s the last time a Jets RB has EVER come close to that kind of production? The more I look into it, the more I’m OK with taking a RB or TE early. The best players at their respective positions are more often then not taken early. CMC, Zeke, Jacobs, etc. Gronk LOL he got those stats by playing in the worse divison in the last 10 years or lomger. The Giants, eagles and skins where all trash teams. I just don't see a RB or TE to draft in the first especailly this year. I'm not buying into the Pitt thing either. I remember OJ Howard was the next best TE. Then before all this it was Kellen Winslow jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Miles Sanders is believed to be only taken in high selection (2nd round) in all organization JD had involved with. LaFleur had worked with Shanahan and their system showed that taking RB that high isn't necessary. I have been trying to look beyond the high echelon of RB class and it won't be easy to nail. Taking one from that echelon may be best plan for Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Oh boo! Devonta Smith chickened out at weight/measurement. boo. hands and arm length look solid, though. Edited January 26, 2021 by JetsandI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfuel34 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Oh boo! Devonta Smith chickened out at weight/measurement. boo. hands and arm length look solid, though. This is not a bad ove by him. i bet he is trying to put on weight and go from 170 to say 180 or 185. I think he will come in at around 6' tall anyways. I think the weight is more important to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Miles Sanders is believed to be only taken in high selection (2nd round) in all organization JD had involved with. LaFleur had worked with Shanahan and their system showed that taking RB that high isn't necessary. I have been trying to look beyond the high echelon of RB class and it won't be easy to nail. Taking one from that echelon may be best plan for Jets. I think what a GM or system has done has to be taken into consideration. But if we can’t get a legit RB in FA... then we have to draft one with one of our 1st few picks after the 2nd overall. Perine and Ty just aren’t good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Don’t want a RB in the first, give me best available OL, DE, LB or WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: I think what a GM or system has done has to be taken into consideration. But if we can’t get a legit RB in FA... then we have to draft one with one of our 1st few picks after the 2nd overall. Perine and Ty just aren’t good enough You know I do not want to draft a RB this year in the first two rounds. Maybe get a top back in a year or two after other positions are established. But I have to ask, why are you so down on Johnson? He produced when asked to. I don’t care about his draft pedigree or his status prior to last year. What he did with a mediocre, at best, OL under gase was pretty good. Could we stand to upgrade? Sure. But too many other other positions need fixing first. We can address RB this year in the third or later. I need not tell you that there are just as many success stories drafted in round 3 or later as there are in the first 2 rounds. Etienne, IMO, will be another Sony Michel. Harris will have success I believe but we can get a Harris in 2022 or 2023. There is always one there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan4life51 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Rhamondre Stevenson vs Florida (2020 Cotton Bowl) - YouTube Rhamondre Stevenson (Oklahoma RB) vs Texas Tech (2020) - YouTube Rhamondre Stevenson (Oklahoma RB) vs Oklahoma St. (2020) - YouTube Steal of the draft at RB He can block. Lots of shotgun and PA. I think him and Zach Wilson would be nice together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, xrade said: You know I do not want to draft a RB this year in the first two rounds. Maybe get a top back in a year or two after other positions are established. But I have to ask, why are you so down on Johnson? He produced when asked to. I don’t care about his draft pedigree or his status prior to last year. What he did with a mediocre, at best, OL under gase was pretty good. Could we stand to upgrade? Sure. But too many other other positions need fixing first. We can address RB this year in the third or later. I need not tell you that there are just as many success stories drafted in round 3 or later as there are in the first 2 rounds. Etienne, IMO, will be another Sony Michel. Harris will have success I believe but we can get a Harris in 2022 or 2023. There is always one there. Our OL actually is pretty decent at run blocking. If they have a weakness its pass protection. So it wasn't like he was running behind this awful OL. He had 1 good game against the Rams. Which that whole game I cant figure out still. I think some are high on him just from that 1 game. But for the rest of the season he didn't do much. He's a below average back. Would I be totally happy with him as a rotational 3rd guy? Absolutely. But to think he can be a legit weapon getting 15 touches a game for me, is just wrong. Same goes for Perine. He did nothing in his time to think he can get that amount of touches. The backfield needs an upgrade. And I'm not saying that means they 100% have to get a star in FA or use a top 34 pick on a guy. It's just that we need more. Yes I prefer that 34th pick to grab a guy. I think that's a perfect spot to grab a RB this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 4 hours ago, JetsandI said: Oh boo! Devonta Smith chickened out at weight/measurement. boo. hands and arm length look solid, though. I’d take Chase over him all day long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.O Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Chase is definitely my WR1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 If there was one position on each side of the ball you would be okay with going into next season with besides DT and OT which two would you choose? Assuming we bring back key free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Bobby816 said: The history of these highly ranked TEs recently hasn't been good. I find it rather funny that so many are against a 1st round RB but are pro 1st round TE. The mistake is considering Pitts as a TE. He is an offensive weapon. He is the only “TE” that can really be considered so in round 1. The real question is will we feature a TE like San Fran did with Kittle? If so, Pitts is the best option this year. RB can be found beyond round 1, like every year. With all that said, Pitts will not last until 23 and if we certainly would not select him at 2. Trade down would really be the only option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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