stl4life07 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 So on TNF this season, Goff and Wentz both shined as they carried their teams to wins. Meanwhile, Mariota and Winston both struggled badly as their teams lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod01 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 5:05 PM, Buc Ball said: 3 of his 8 on the season. On course for his lowest number of turnovers in his career. Can I get an update concerning this piece of **** you support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod01 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 9:36 PM, OleXmad said: Winston is the sole reason the bucs are actually relevant right now but ok. How's it going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, lod01 said: Can I get an update concerning this piece of **** you support? In terms of the accusations made against Winston? Let the legal process play out and take it from there. If he’s convicted of a crime, throw the book at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 50 minutes ago, lod01 said: How's it going? They're still relevant aren't they? Jameis is getting them tons of media coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted November 19, 2017 Author Share Posted November 19, 2017 Winston is worse than Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 hour ago, patriotsheatyan said: Winston is worse than Fitzpatrick. The offence we run is entirely different with Fitz in the game. Much more short throws and screens. Winston would look much better in that version of the offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: 1 hour ago, patriotsheatyan said: Winston is worse than Fitzpatrick. The offence we run is entirely different with Fitz in the game. Much more short throws and screens. Winston would look much better in that version of the offence. Winston confirmed guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Buc Ball said: The offence we run is entirely different with Fitz in the game. Much more short throws and screens. Winston would look much better in that version of the offence. This just bs. So you're telling me there's two completely different playbooks and schemes that the entire offense has to learn? OnE for winston and one for fitzmagic? Or is it just that fitzmagic does a better job executing it than winston did? While im not lauding fitzmagic as a quality starter or the future of this team, he takes what's given to him better than one read inaccurate and elongated winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 currently the order is Wentz goff Mariota Winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 IMO Wentz Goff Mariota Winston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 hours ago, REDandPEWTER said: This just bs. So you're telling me there's two completely different playbooks and schemes that the entire offense has to learn? OnE for winston and one for fitzmagic? Or is it just that fitzmagic does a better job executing it than winston did? While im not lauding fitzmagic as a quality starter or the future of this team, he takes what's given to him better than one read inaccurate and elongated winston. Yes, I’m telling you there’s this thing called a “gameplan” which utilises different plays from the playbook. Evidently you don’t bother your backside watching the team you claim to “support” because the difference in play calling is and has been noticeable with Fitz in the game compared to Winston. Hence the weekly discussion on that point in the gameday thread. The only time we’ve seen Winston in a consistently shorter passing attack this season was the Buffalo game which was easily his best game of the season. It also happened to be a game where it appeared Koetter really changed up the playcalling to good effect. I know you’re determined to see Winston fail, just so you can tell everyone “I told you so”, but let’s argue facts rather than calling bs on something that is actually readily apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Buc Ball said: Yes, I’m telling you there’s this thing called a “gameplan” which utilises different plays from the playbook. Evidently you don’t bother your backside watching the team you claim to “support” because the difference in play calling is and has been noticeable with Fitz in the game compared to Winston. Hence the weekly discussion on that point in the gameday thread. The only time we’ve seen Winston in a consistently shorter passing attack this season was the Buffalo game which was easily his best game of the season. It also happened to be a game where it appeared Koetter really changed up the playcalling to good effect. I know you’re determined to see Winston fail, just so you can tell everyone “I told you so”, but let’s argue facts rather than calling bs on something that is actually readily apparent. In no way am I determined to see anyone fail. But there is too many excuses for the guy. Call it like I see it. He's struggled with accuracy and mechanics since Florida state and his decision making is poor consistently. He shows flashes here and there but he's no where near consistent and hasn't been. The shorter passing attack against Buffalo was him finally taking what was given to him. He still turned it over twice that day despite 380 yards. Hes jekly and Hyde at the qb position and maybe even off the field. You point to Buffalo but Romo on Thursday night was ripping him apart pointing out guys running open and winston just flat out not seeing them. That's huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 This debate is starting to trend away from Winston and Mariota by each week that passes. To be fair, I don't think Mariota is 100% this season. I have no excuse for Winston, he looks to have regressed. And don't get me started with that odd "eat the W" pre-game speech. Goff needed a quality play caller and we see what's he truly capable of in year two. Wentz is on pace for 40 TDs to just 8 INTs while leading a 9-1 team. Even his staunchest critics before this season have to admit they didn't expect such a meteoric rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Jared Goff NOV STATS 1,245 YARDS////64.7%////8.96 YPA////9TDS////1INT////111.9 RATING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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