TitanSlim Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Wentz has been amazing this season and Goff has been pretty good himself. Having said that, saying Mariota has never had a stretch as good as Wentz/Goff current stretch is dumb, considering he did last year. He had a 8 game stretch with 21 TDs/3 INT/67% comp./259 YPG. Regarding the question, I'd go with Wentz/Goff just off their current play. But I'm with @TitanLegend regarding these young QBs. Let these guys play their careers out. We see this story all the time. Bortles and Carr were the next great thing, then it was Winston/Mariota, now Goff/Wentz. Then those guys will have young QB struggles next year and everyone will move on to next bright young group of QBs, and so on and so on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 12 hours ago, jsthomp2007 said: LMAO! Whatever bruh. You pooped the bed, man. Just gotta accept it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 13 hours ago, jrry32 said: You pooped the bed, man. Just gotta accept it and move on. Ooooookay Jrry32...whatever you so say. Whatever makes you feel better my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 hours ago, jsthomp2007 said: Ooooookay Jrry32...whatever you so say. Whatever makes you feel better my friend. The 6-2 record, #1 offense, and studly 23 year old QB have me feeling damn amazing. Just own your mistake. The crow doesn't taste that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, jrry32 said: The 6-2 record, #1 offense, and studly 23 year old QB have me feeling damn amazing. Just own your mistake. The crow doesn't taste that bad. Can't believe you forgot the number 1 point differential. Up your game, Jezza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Here's a stat for all 5* QB's from the 2 draft classes Aggressiveness %, % of throws thrown to receivers with a defender within 1 yard, tight coverage. Minimum 200 attempts on the season. Carson Wentz 24.1% (1st) Jameis Winston 21.2% (5th) Dak Prescott 18.1% (13th) Marcus Mariota 17.6% (15th) Jared Goff 11.5% (30th) So Jared's receivers are always wide open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsthomp2007 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 14 hours ago, jrry32 said: The 6-2 record, #1 offense, and studly 23 year old QB have me feeling damn amazing. Just own your mistake. The crow doesn't taste that bad. How can having an opinion be a mistake? I don't need to own up to anything. You are biased, and i get that. But, if you want to compare peaches to oranges, then the Eagles have an 8-1 record and are riding a 7 game winning streak. From an eye test, and this is just my opinion, Wentz is Michael Jordan and Goff is Clyde Drexler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARams91 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 13 hours ago, Danger said: Here's a stat for all 5* QB's from the 2 draft classes Aggressiveness %, % of throws thrown to receivers with a defender within 1 yard, tight coverage. Minimum 200 attempts on the season. Carson Wentz 24.1% (1st) Jameis Winston 21.2% (5th) Dak Prescott 18.1% (13th) Marcus Mariota 17.6% (15th) Jared Goff 11.5% (30th) So Jared's receivers are always wide open? Or he doesn't throw into double or triple coverage....either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 13 hours ago, Danger said: Here's a stat for all 5* QB's from the 2 draft classes Aggressiveness %, % of throws thrown to receivers with a defender within 1 yard, tight coverage. Minimum 200 attempts on the season. Carson Wentz 24.1% (1st) Jameis Winston 21.2% (5th) Dak Prescott 18.1% (13th) Marcus Mariota 17.6% (15th) Jared Goff 11.5% (30th) So Jared's receivers are always wide open? Or he just makes better decisions? This could be a factor or him progressing through his reads better or audibling at the line once he reads the coverage. It could also be that Mcvay is drawing up better plays to help his QB out. Unless you watch every snap and focus on that, you can't say one way or the other, so it's safe to say it's probably somewhere in the middle. Goff has been very good at diagnosing the play at the line of scrimmage this year so I don't think it's farfetched to say that helps that percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 My only wonder is, can he fit into tight coverage late in the game when he's down if he needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, Danger said: My only wonder is, can he fit into tight coverage late in the game when he's down if he needs to. Guess we'll find out against Seattle. Could be a huuuuge game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Guess we'll find out against Seattle. Could be a huuuuge game. He showed it vs Seattle.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 @El ramster From the ones that are working from me, there's a couple where rams are not behind and one that was broken up. Last one is a good example, but I can't see score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: @El ramster From the ones that are working from me, there's a couple where rams are not behind and one that was broken up. Last one is a good example, but I can't see score. Same. I never get the chance to actually see a Rams game on TV. Goff is a player I'd like to actually watch and get a feel for where I genuinely stand with him, live, with my own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Winston hasn't shown me much improvement from year 1 to year 3. Not bad, but not seeing him get much better. Maybe he was one of those "pro-ready early" guys who maxed out? Bad coaching? Mariota has been really really good as well, but his injury bug is concerning. Not the greatest coaching, but the Titans were hot garbage when he came, so considering.... Wentz stepped into the best situation of the 4 imo. He's been as good as advertised, if not a little better. I was skeptical because of the small school label, but he's proven to be the real deal. Goff was absolutely terrible last year, but so was the team around him and Jeff Fisher can't coach. With improved coaching and weapons, he has shown tremendous progress- something I haven't seen out of Winston, Mariota, or Wentz, at least to the same degree. There are a lot of factors that can go into this for sure, and any of the other 3 could wind up progressing more, or they could hit a ceiling and just stay above average-really good. For now though, I can't deny that Goff has shown the ability to get much better on the field. Really impressed by him this year. As such, I have Goff/Wentz as the better duo, but it's a close call. Unlike other classes, we aren't talking about 1 success and 1 failure (Manning/Leaf, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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