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Why is Ja'Marr Chase the consensus top receiver?


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4 hours ago, Chrissooner49er said:

Weren't some of the opinion CeeDee was too thin? He did quite well for himself in his rookie season. 

You mean the guy who was nearly 20 lbs heavier than Smith when he weighed in at the combine, and is listed by Dallas as 9 lbs more than that now?

https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=30181

Lamb was 189 at the combine (granted 1" taller than Smith), and is listed at 198 now (he might be under that, but that's what they list him as). 

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20 hours ago, FinSting said:

There was one play vs Ohio State where a defender used only one arm to do what looked like an easy body slam on WR Smith, who resembled a lightweight rag doll. I cringed, thinking how the Thin Reaper will take lumps in the more physical NFL.

Georgia main corners on the roster Tyson Campbell and Eric Stokes two CBs who will be in the NFL, DJ Daniel another future NFL corner did not play.  Smith had 11 catches 167 yards at 2 TDs.

Auburn main corners McCreary and Tutt both who will be in the NFL, 7 catches, 171 yards and 2 TDs.

LSU against Stingley who is regarded as the best corner in the nation, and also Ricks and Flott, Ricks is a big time talent also.  8 catches, 231 yards and 3 TDs.

Florida against Kaiir Elam, Marco Wilson and Trey Dean III, all three will be in the NFL and Elam will be a high 1st rounder next year.  15 catches, 184 yards and 2 TDs.

Against Ohio State and Shaun Wade one of the highest rated CBs in the college game coming into the season and Sevyn Banks who has pro potential, 12 catches, 215 yards and 3 TDs at half time.

 

 

He has went up against some of the best corners in the nation, sure it was not all one on one coverage all game and there is gimmicks to get him the ball at times on screens and quick passes, but still it is not like he is going up against all these weak awful corners who cannot cover or tackle with aggression.  When in reality many are some of the best corner prospects coming into the NFL.

To think once DeVonta Smith gets to the NFL he will just stop and be awful because he is thin?  Yeah right.  And this recency bias nonsense, yeah what you have done recently does matter a little bit and should matter more than what you have done in the past.  

 

Also the NFL rules defenders are less and less able to be physical and use their hands.  Sure at times they get away with it but it is nothing like it used to be before all the rule changes.  So getting a free release in the NFL happens all the time when it used to rarely ever happen.  I think a lot of this is some literally never watched Bama play this year and are just now going over information.  Comparing DeVonta Smith as a Heisman winner to Tim Tebow?  Yeah that makes a ton of sense, oh any player with Heisman success is just considered **** because the NFL is so different than college.  When in reality the NFL is becoming more like the college game than the other way around.  

 

20 hours ago, Chrissooner49er said:

Weren't some of the opinion CeeDee was too thin? He did quite well for himself in his rookie season. 

Lamb is a physical beast and is awesome getting YAC.  Was great at in in college and awesome at it in the NFL.  But yeah some had issues with how thin he looked but did not actually watch him play obviously and just saw a thin receiver.  Lamb is way more physically strong than DeVonta Smith.  One is not drafting Smith because of his strength and ability to run through tackles.  But bring up mental intangibles of the game and mental strength that apparently does not matter at all.  

 

 

On 1/29/2021 at 6:24 AM, INbengalfan said:

So instead of making a blanket statement earlier that he lacks competitive drive because he sat out, can we agree that if he shows up is great shape for whatever combine they do online, that his work ethic is just fine?   

 

not playing =/= lazy work ethic

 

If he shows up like former Alabama players Andre Smith or the LB that went off the rails, then he deserves what he gets 

Well one thing is easier, the other is not.  Sure it does not mean everyone opting out is lazy but it would have been far easier for a good player to sit than to play this season.  Everyone knows one thing is harder to do than the other and if one had lazy tendencies no question what would be decided on.  

But yes Chase better be in absolutely great shape and run a 4.3 range 40, if not there will be some questions.  Again with the risks, there are guys who opted back in who literally have Asthma and their literal life is at risk, pretty sure that is a reason to opt out and even in that case they did not and played most the season.   I do question why he sat out but his teammate Marshall did the same thing with little over 3 games left, but at least he gave it a shot with the awful inexperienced QB play.  Still was effective and played well so curious why Chase maybe though he would have struggled.  Would have loved to see how he would have impacted that team and been the leader on that inexperienced team.

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5 hours ago, Ozzy said:

To think once DeVonta Smith gets to the NFL he will just stop and be awful because he is thin?  Yeah right.  And this recency bias nonsense, yeah what you have done recently does matter a little bit and should matter more than what you have done in the past.  

No one denies Smith is an incredible receiver. Will his slender body type stand up to NFL abuse? That's the million dollar(s) question. 

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Smith will be a beast. I don't think anyone denies that. I just think some teams are being cautious and to draft him at #3, you have to be 100% sure. That said nothing is a guarantee. Smith could end up having the best career of all of them despite being "small"

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1 hour ago, Awsi Dooger said:

I'll do it. Let's just say anyone criticizing the opt-outs during a once in a century pandemic is not somebody I would trust for an opinion on anything

Being a history teacher, those in the Middle Ages would likely not have even noticed this "once in a century pandemic" had it been in their time instead of ours. This is nothing compared to the Black Death/Bubonic Plague. 1/3 of Europe's population was wiped out, so let's get a bit of perspective, shall we?

It is dangerous, but nothing like what has come before. 

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