DreamKid Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, 49erurtaza said: I believe there reasoning is to completely get rid of off-season workouts from what I understand. I thought it was about compensation for them(off-season workouts)? Like why show up to something like OTAs, risk injury, and not be receive additional compensation for taking on said risk. That's what I thought their issue was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanrick Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, 49erurtaza said: I believe there reasoning is to completely get rid of off-season workouts from what I understand. Which would have been a legitimate stance. Instead they claimed it was due to lack of adequate Covid protocols. I can only assume everyone involved is staying quarantined at home then, right? Right??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Awful news and I hope he recovers but the stance that the NFLPA is taking is dumb and I’m pro players in almost everything besides this decision 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Starless said: I guess now we know where Mitchell Schwartz will be signing. and practicing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Think JC Tretter will pay some of that 10 million? Smh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Turnobili said: i imagine that would have been part of CBA negotiations when they also agreed to the 17th game... I never understood why they took such a bad deal. They truly need new people running NFLPA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) Well, Denver getting a G who could likely start week 1 in Meinerz is going to make for an interesting offseason now. Unless Calvin Anderson is ready to start (seems iffy), I think it's more likely Dalton Risner moves to RT, and either Meinerz (or Muti) starts at G now with Glasgow (and Muti / Meinerz could start if Glasgow needs to kick inside for C Cushenberry, who struggled in his 1st year). It's a terrible rule, but Den's FO is likely to apply it - the 10M saved likely helps them get vet T depth help (either a guy like Okung/Leno, but I don't know how well they translate to the RT side), or even they go after a retread vet they are familiar with like Jason Spriggs, or a depth guy like Dennis Kelly. James' decision to opt out cost him 9.5M last year....and the off-site location costs him another 10M. That's gotta hurt - no way he's seeing that kind of coin again. He missed so many games (and he still made 17.5M in 12M bonus money, 5M 2019 salary and 500K opt-out for 2020 instead of the 10M), Denver fans won't shed a tear, but have to feel bad when anyone misses out on a windfall for flukish reasons. Edited May 4, 2021 by Broncofan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49erurtaza Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Broncofan said: Well, Denver getting a G who could likely start week 1 in Meinerz is going to make for an interesting offseason now. Unless Calvin Anderson is ready to start (seems iffy), I think it's more likely Dalton Risner moves to RT, and either Meinerz (or Muti) starts at G now with Glasgow (and Muti / Meinerz could start if Glasgow needs to kick inside for C Cushenberry, who struggled in his 1st year). It's a terrible rule, but Den's FO is likely to apply it - the 10M saved likely helps them get vet T depth help (either a guy like Okung/Leno, but I don't know how well they translate to the RT side), or even they go after a retread vet they are familiar with like Jason Spriggs, or a depth guy like Dennis Kelly. James' decision to opt out cost him 9.5M last year....and the off-site location costs him another 10M. That's gotta hurt - no way he's seeing that kind of coin again. He missed so many games (and he still made 17.5M in 12M bonus money, 5M 2019 salary and 500K opt-out for 2020 instead of the 10M), Denver fans won't shed a tear, but have to feel bad when anyone misses out on a windfall for flukish reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, 49erurtaza said: I think long-term, Glasgow is probably let go in 2022, so DEN can reallocate cap elsewhere - and Meinerz/Risner play G, and Muti is the depth guy (or plays C). That allows Bolles and ??RT?? play. It's definitely not ideal to move Risner to T, but unless we get more established talent, our depth at T is non-existent. I don't see Denver standing pat, because they only have 2 T's they likely feel comfortable playing important snaps - Bolles & Anderson. Anderson was supposed to be the swing guy, but recognizing his importance with James' injury risk. I have to believe they will sign a Jason Spriggs, or a Dennis Kelly, even if the idea is that Anderson starts - you can't go into Week 1 without more guys who can play T in live games, it can't be just developmental projects. It was kinda why I was hoping they'd spend a Rd3-4 pick on a T prospect that was more than a total developmental, PS-stash type UDFA/late Day 3 guy. Edited May 4, 2021 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I feel for the guy but...this ended up working out pretty favorably. Cold business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, 49erurtaza said: Wonder if we see alot of injuries from the opt out guys this season. We saw plenty last year as a result of no off-season and preseason. I would expect some fallback this year but not like last 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Bummer. Really feel bad for him regarding the $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, titanrick said: So he lost $10M because of the boycott of working at team HQ? Because if he was at team facilities, his contract would have been guaranteed. Wow. NFLPA just ****ed this man hard with their stupid boycott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 20 minutes ago, wwhickok said: NFLPA just ****ed this man hard with their stupid boycott A proper union would step in and cover any potential hardship / losses that one of their own suffers for staying in line. I'm curious to see how this all ends up playing out, but I do wish the best for the man as this could be devastating not only to his long-term career propects but also financial earnings. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, 49erurtaza said: I never understood why they took such a bad deal. They truly need new people running NFLPA. Because it was a great deal for the guys who will spend 1-3 years in the league, which is more than half the league. Owners are smart, they pitted the big guys versus the little ones. Every players' vote counts as 1. If I'm getting a better deal as a UDFA who might make it 2 years, why should I care if my All Pro guys aren't happy with it? It was the 32 Union reps for each team that took it to vote that screwed it up, the owners knew once they get everyone voting, they had won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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