ronjon1990 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Trade for Russell Wilson. He wants out, Seattle feels like it's time for a rebuild. I'm tired of living in the middle with Carr. Trade him for some draft capital. Part of his beef has been Seattle's O-line... You think he'd want to play here, much less be a guaranteed improvement? Please, do elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Carr is not the problem with this team/franchise... Wake up! He's also not the solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Part of his beef has been Seattle's O-line... You think he'd want to play here, much less be a guaranteed improvement? Please, do elaborate. I'm going to go under the assumption that they will rebuild the Oline in FA for the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, big_palooka said: He's also not the solution Naw, if you think Carr is the problem with this dumpster fire of a franchise you're clearly asleep at the wheel. Edited October 15, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Naw, if you think Carr is the problem with this dumpster fire of a franchise you're clearly asleep at the wheel. I’m loving this cause bp was the first carr supporter iirc and you are holding down bps old position. but you have to really put emotions away and read what bp is saying. Bp does have a point. I still view this as a make or break year for carr etc etc. after all this drama if carr balls out he’s a keeper if not deuces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: I’m loving this cause bp was the first carr supporter iirc and you are holding down bps old position. but you have to really put emotions away and read what bp is saying. Bp does have a point. I still view this as a make or break year for carr etc etc. after all this drama if carr balls out he’s a keeper if not deuces It’s been a make or break year for Carr the last 3-4 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said: It’s been a make or break year for Carr the last 3-4 years He has shown improvement over that time. You can argue it has not been enough but anyone that wants to bring up reasons why he has struggled will have a leg to stand on this year. I can disagree with them but if the team collapses there are valid reasons why that is possible that are not his fault. I will say that if he is a true leader these are the times he needs to take control in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: I’m loving this cause bp was the first carr supporter iirc and you are holding down bps old position. but you have to really put emotions away and read what bp is saying. Bp does have a point. I still view this as a make or break year for carr etc etc. after all this drama if carr balls out he’s a keeper if not deuces Once again you lack logic. "Duces" is your stance? That is a low brow take on a very complex situation. Define what you mean by make or break season for Carr and what is your criteria? Is it W/L or is it statical? Also it is completely idiotic to think Carr is the issue with this dumpster fire of an organization and the word idiotic is kind if that is your stance. Furthermore, if you suggesting that we move on from Carr then what is your recommendation on how we upgrade the QB position? If it's via the draft and your the new HC/GM you better damn well be 100 percent confidant that you have an upgrade. If that HC/GM combo deals Carr and drafts a bust they will be deemed incompetent and fired in short order. I have no problem keeping Carr and drafting a replacement at some point. The smart thing to do is to keep him, draft a replacement and when HC/GM is 100 percent certain the young QB is an upgrade then you move on. That is the logical way to handle this situation. Edited October 15, 2021 by Frankie2Gunz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Once again you lack logic. "Duces" is your stance? That is a low brow take on a very complex situation. Define what you mean by make or break season for Carr and what is your criteria? Is it W/L or is it statical? Also it is completely idiotic to think Carr is the issue with this dumpster fire of an organization and the word idiotic is kind if that is your stance. Furthermore, if you suggesting that we move on from Carr then what is your recommendation on how we upgrade the QB position? If it's via the draft and your the new HC/GM you better damn well be 100 percent confidant that you have an upgrade. If that HC/GM combo deals Carr and drafts a bust they will be deemed incompetent and fired in short order. I have no problem keeping Carr and drafting a replacement at some point. The smart thing to do is to keep him, draft a replacement and when HC/GM is 100 percent certain the young QB is an upgrade then you move on. That is the logical way to handle this situation. We’ve been talking about this for years now and it’s the same thing. How does respond to adversity? Last year he responded by tanking the 2nd half of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 13 hours ago, big_palooka said: The mere fact that you have to over achieve to get 10 wins with Derek Carr is exactly why I want a better QB. I want a guy who's standards are much higher. umm the coach was just fired in the season, and the OLINE sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: umm the coach was just fired in the season, and the OLINE sucks There will always be adversity in the nfl and esp with this team. as you can see lol. it will be a while before we’re perfect enough for y’all to not have any excuse to save him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chali21 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 I like Carr a lot but to be honest his time with the Raiders is at its end. He’s going to go through a 3RD rebuild, that’s too many for one guy. He really just needs to go to a team that needs a QB (lol if it’s Denver) let him finish his years playing for a team that’s in a better position to win a super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chali21 said: I like Carr a lot but to be honest his time with the Raiders is at its end. He’s going to go through a 3RD rebuild, that’s too many for one guy. He really just needs to go to a team that needs a QB (lol if it’s Denver) let him finish his years playing for a team that’s in a better position to win a super bowl. DC is barely 30 and plays QB. he is going to be starting for the rest of this decade at the very least. we need to ink him up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chali21 said: I like Carr a lot but to be honest his time with the Raiders is at its end. He’s going to go through a 3RD rebuild, that’s too many for one guy. He really just needs to go to a team that needs a QB (lol if it’s Denver) let him finish his years playing for a team that’s in a better position to win a super bowl. I think we need to just hit a homer with this next coach, and invest in Carr insurance lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Carr will retire before being traded. So when rebuilding factor that in. We are going to trade picks to fix the Oline now and go all in with our chips. It's VEGAS BABY!!!This team will win a playoff game this season. We probably keep everyone in place but maybe upgrade OC. Carr doesn't have a leader above him now so he will become the leader we always wanted and we all will be laffing at the rebuild talk. Rich B. will be HC in 2022 and Mayock the GM. If we don't improve then it all comes down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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