pwny Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: As I mentioned before, that was in the past. Looking forward, I don't see it. See Shanahan/Washington. Shanahan joined Washington 12 years after he won a Super Bowl and the league had clearly begun to pass him by. Specifically, what about Doug mirrors something like that? To clarify, I’m not being a jerk or anything. I’m genuinely trying to understand where this concern comes from. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, pwny said: Shanahan joined Washington 12 years after he won a Super Bowl and the league had clearly begun to pass him by. Specifically, what about Doug mirrors something like that? To clarify, I’m not being a jerk or anything. I’m genuinely trying to understand where this concern comes from. On a side note, it’s hilarious that the league passed by Mike but his coaching tree has been so successful: Kyle, McVay, Lafleur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, pwny said: Shanahan joined Washington 12 years after he won a Super Bowl and the league had clearly begun to pass him by. Specifically, what about Doug mirrors something like that? To clarify, I’m not being a jerk or anything. I’m genuinely trying to understand where this concern comes from. As far as Doug Pederson, the argument keeps coming in that his ceiling is the Super Bowl because he won one before. All I'm saying is that I don't think he is capable of doing that again. He had his perfect storm. I don't think his ability precludes him from doing it twice. Think Bruce Arians now if you want. With Brady gone, I think he's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiffyJag Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: As far as Doug Pederson, the argument keeps coming in that his ceiling is the Super Bowl because he won one before. All I'm saying is that I don't think he is capable of doing that again. He had his perfect storm. I don't think his ability precludes him from doing it twice. Think Bruce Arians now if you want. With Brady gone, I think he's done. Ah yes, the perfect storm of “your MVP candidate QB goes down at the end of the season” lol Really, the SB wins of TB and Philadelphia seem to be exact opposite scenarios. One was a stacked team carried by its talent, in particular the literal greatest QB of all time, that probably makes a deep playoff run with any HC. The other is an injured team who lost seemingly its best player but still persevered because of…..coaching. Edited February 5, 2022 by JiffyJag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, JiffyJag said: Ah yes, the perfect storm of “your MVP candidate QB goes down at the end of the season” lol Really, the SB wins of TB and Philadelphia seem to be exact opposite scenarios. One was a stacked team carried by its talent, in particular the literal greatest QB of all time, that probably makes a deep playoff run with any HC. The other is an injured team who lost seemingly its best player but still persevered because of…..coaching. This is a really optimistic view of our SB when looking at the coach. There is no question Doug was on fire in the playoffs that year... but so was our entire team. Everyone was playing incredible that playoff stretch and it was without a doubt a miracle run. Also the 2017 Eagles WERE stacked with talent. That roster was incredible from top to bottom which is why we could carry on without Wentz and why Foles looked like an Elite QB during the playoff run. You can give Doug credit for sure... but to say the team persevered simply because of coaching isn't exactly correct. You could also point to assistants and coordinators who moved on after 2017 which coincided with a steep drop off in production going forward and say that maybe it wasn't all just Doug as well. I wouldn't say Doug is incapable of winning another Super Bowl, but I'd have to say it is extremely unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, JiffyJag said: Ah yes, the perfect storm of “your MVP candidate QB goes down at the end of the season” lol Really, the SB wins of TB and Philadelphia seem to be exact opposite scenarios. One was a stacked team carried by its talent, in particular the literal greatest QB of all time, that probably makes a deep playoff run with any HC. The other is an injured team who lost seemingly its best player but still persevered because of…..coaching. If you believe Doug is going to get you there, by all means believe it. He might. I already said I thought it was a good hire for you all. It’s just closer to Rivera for me. The guy before the guy to help fix the sinking ship. And I’ve been sinking for a long time too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Just now, AZ_Eaglesfan said: I wouldn't say Doug is incapable of winning another Super Bowl, but I'd have to say it is extremely unlikely. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp0k2 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 1:30 PM, HoboRocket said: He's had four different head coaches in his last four seasons. On to his 5th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 It’s quite possible that Doug was an average coach who just happened to win a Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_is_the_best Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Well they picked a pretty good fallback. As we know, Pederson inherited a dream team with an unstoppable HOF QB & managed, through no ability of his own, to luck into a SB victory. Ok maybe I went overboard with the sarcasm, but the Jags made a good hire. He will bring competency to this organization, Jags fans should be happy. I think most are. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) Correct me if I'm wrong but I hear that the Jags wanted Byron Leftwich. And Leftwich wanted the Jags. And Trent Baalke said "it's him or me." And Shahid Khan kept Trent Baalke? The guy who forced out his one good head coach on the Niners and replaced him like this? I will never understand NFL team owners. Pederson is a pretty good fallback, but... wow. Edited February 6, 2022 by y*so*blu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHONUFF Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I thought Jim Caldwell was the perfect hire for them. This isn't a bad hire though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSLCF04 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 5:27 PM, Nabbs4u said: You joke but can you think of a better mentor and back up QB to help install Doug's system for Trevor Lawrence? It's not exactly a paint by numbers type offense. He'd basically be an extra QB coach in the film room. Could think of numerous worse options TBH. Take him for a 7th. Done deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSLCF04 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 9:23 PM, LinderFournette said: We will take him back if u give us mooney Naaa, ill stand bye the deflated football in return lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeast23 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Can’t hire a guy who drinks his water like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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