2022 Combine Thread

[agarcia34]

Good guy Malik Willis being a great person 

 

[Jeezla]

18 hours ago, Scoundrel said:

Burks supposedly will do everything like a real man 

WR1, just like he has been since September.

[MSURacerDT55]

Skyy Moore's measurements tho...👀

[Johnny Nix]

9 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said:

Skyy Moore's measurements tho...👀

He looks destined to be a Steeler

[MOSteelers56]

26 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said:

Skyy Moore's measurements tho...👀

I can't find them. What did he come in at?

 

16 minutes ago, Johnny Nix said:

He looks destined to be a Steeler

Which round do you think he goes?

[Johnny Nix]

Just now, MOSteelers56 said:

I can't find them. What did he come in at?

 

Which round do you think he goes?

Day 2

[Scoundrel]

3 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said:

I can't find them. What did he come in at?

 

Which round do you think he goes?

5’10 195 10.25” hands 31” arms

[Trojan]

2 hours ago, Scoundrel said:

5’10 195 10.25” hands 31” arms

where do you find measurements in general, like a site with all of them? or is it just random twitter now?


edit: found it on PFF @ https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022-nfl-scouting-combine-schedule-results-live-updates

Edited March 3, 2022 by Trojan

[.Buzz]

Uh oh

[Dr LBC]

4 hours ago, tyler735 said:

Yeah because it's generally not an issue much like hand size lol. Either you can play or you can't. 

Or, like so many things that people refuse to accept, it's a case of numerous factors and not just a cut-and-dry, black-or-white matter.  That doesn't mean you just dismiss a factor as being low-relevance just because you find a few outliers that support your argument unless either 1) You're too lazy to take a larger-scale look (at which point your opinion - or anyone's taking that approach - deserves to be taken less seriously) or 2) You're probably aware you're not making a good argument, but you don't care.

Rather than looking at a single incidence, like what QB led the league in fumbles in a given year, why not take the effort to look at a bit larger sample-size, like maybe who were the top 10 QB's with the most fumbles for the past 5 years.  Or even go step further and consider that not all fumbles are created equally or come from the circumstances where most eval folks are going to be as concerned about a QB - so maybe look at how often a QB fumbles per instance sacked.

If you go about that route a couple names are going to stand out to you in the subset: Jared Goff, Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, and Joe Burrow.  Now several of these things are not like the other ones.  Without a play-by-play instance breakdown, I'm not secure in determining how many of Kyler's fumbles came resulting on plays where he was scrambling/rushing versus dropped back to throw; but regardless he presents enough dynamism to his game that increased fumble-likelihood may become more excusable,  Same reason why Burrow's fumbling on more than 1/4 of the instances he was sacked and fumbling 1x per game his first was was excusable (particularly after he appeared to take much better care of the ball this last season).  Jared Goff, however, those shows of dynamism were rarer, far less consistent, and thus did far less to justify his different type of consistency, that being his presence in the top half of most-fumbles in the league by a quarterback bracket for more years than not in his career thus far.  And as someone who watched him play regularly for all but the last of those years of his pro career, I can tell you that A LOT of his fumbles were resultant of not being able to get as firm of a grip on the ball both in his carriage while cocked back to throw and in moving with the ball in a single hand while maneuvering through a congested pocket.

In summation, should hand size be a be-all/end-all threshold that you write a guy off if he doesn't hit a certain benchmark?  No.  But it's entirely legitimate to start factoring into a cost/benefit analysis whether the other dynamism at the position (and not just scarcity of guys at that position in a particular draft class) does enough to compensate for the likelihood that his smaller hand-size is probably going to lead to a higher preponderance of fumbling the ball when sacked.

[DaPatsKid98]

anyone looking for measurables, @TheDraftNetwork on twitter has them all posted in a thread based on position group.

 

Start of QB’s: 

 

 

Start of TE:  

 

 

and, WR: 

 

[Ozzy]

4 hours ago, agarcia34 said:

Good guy Malik Willis being a great person 

 

That is impressive no question, what did he give the person though a free T-shirt he got from the combine or something?   Really outstanding though no question about it.  

[Ozzy]

6 hours ago, BowlesDawgDX said:

Smells of cabbage

 

Joe Burrow's were considered small at 9", Pickett's 8 1/2" is the smallest in the NFL but still the dude is the most pro ready QB in the draft potentially and one of the best in terms of his preparation and intelligence.  

 

Mike Vick had 8 1/2" hands by the way.  

[Jeezla]

Run Calvin, run. 4.32. 

[Jeezla]

Wr's starting off with back to back 4.3's