ET80 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, lancerman said: It’s not FULLY guaranteed, silly. Just give me more guaranteed money than anyone in history… and then, you can give me some non guaranteed money, too! 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, ET80 said: It’s not FULLY guaranteed, silly. Just give me more guaranteed money than anyone in history… and then, you can give me some non guaranteed money, too! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ET80 said: It’s not FULLY guaranteed, silly. Just give me more guaranteed money than anyone in history… and then, you can give me some non guaranteed money, too! If this isn't 4D chess, I have no clue what is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, lancerman said: So this pretty much does it for the thread, right? There’s not a thing anyone can say to argue for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, EvilenFroggen said: So this pretty much does it for the thread, right? There’s not a thing anyone can say to argue for this. I think @ET80 laid it out pretty clearly. He wants more guaranteed money than any player in NFL history. That's hilariously delusional given that the only contract that has that much money was fully guaranteed... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, lancerman said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I think @ET80 laid it out pretty clearly. He wants more guaranteed money than any player in NFL history. That's hilariously delusional given that the only contract that has that much money was fully guaranteed... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I think @ET80 laid it out pretty clearly. He wants more guaranteed money than any player in NFL history. That's hilariously delusional given that the only contract that has that much money was fully guaranteed... Turns out agents are there for a reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: I think @ET80 laid it out pretty clearly. He wants more guaranteed money than any player in NFL history. That's hilariously delusional given that the only contract that has that much money was fully guaranteed... 10 years $240mil GTD, $300mil overall lol. This is why it’s stupid though - The 3/$133mil up to $175mil without injury is better than what Watson got on AAV IIRC. So having no agent hurt him in that understanding. Plus being only 26, that gives him reasonable power to negotiate another contract right before he hits the QB prime years of early-30’s without the long term tie, and maybe get another $200mil GTD over 3 years. Edited March 30, 2023 by warfelg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, EvilenFroggen said: Turns out agents are there for a reason. Agents are like insurance companies. You hate that you have to pay them but man its nice to have them when you need them once every few years. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, ET80 said: It’s not FULLY guaranteed, silly. Just give me more guaranteed money than anyone in history… and then, you can give me some non guaranteed money, too! I remember getting flamed in the Ravens forum earlier this offseason when I said it was clear based on all available comments from the FO and beat reporters at that time that Lamar was being unreasonable in his demands and he was the one who was clearly unwilling to compromise. Was met with a lot of “you don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors! no real legit info is even out yet about what he wants!”, and a bunch of “if you’re not going to specifically define in exact dollar amounts what unreasonable and unwilling to compromise means, stop talking!!” Good times. Think this clears all that up. Edited March 30, 2023 by Ray Reed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ray Reed said: I remember getting flamed in the Ravens forum earlier this offseason when I said it was clear based on all available comments from the FO and beat reporters at that time that Lamar was being unreasonable in his demands and he was the one who was clearly unwilling to compromise. Was met with a lot of “you don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors! no real legit info is even out yet about what he wants!”, and a bunch of “if you’re not going to specifically define in exact dollar amounts what unreasonable and unwilling to compromise means, stop talking!!” Good times. Think this clears all that up. As a Browns fan, it's been incredibly enjoyable reading through that Lamar thread in the Ravens forum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DawgX said: As a Browns fan, it's been incredibly enjoyable reading through that Lamar thread in the Ravens forum. The fan engagement in contract negotiations is ridiculous. There are no wins and losses with money that isn't yours. Why do we care if the 100-millionaire or the single digit billionaire wins the financial battle here? Only thing that will end up mattering is if Lamar is playing for the Ravens week 1. Edited March 31, 2023 by wackywabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: The fan engagement in contract negotiations is ridiculous. There are no wins and losses with money that isn't yours. Why do we care if the 100-millionaire or the single digit billionaire wins the financial battle here? Only thing that will end up mattering is if Lamar is playing for the Ravens week 1. I mean as fans we want our players paid but not at the expense of winning either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: The fan engagement in contract negotiations is ridiculous. There are no wins and losses with money that isn't yours. Why do we care if the 100-millionaire or the single digit billionaire wins the financial battle here? Only thing that will end up mattering is if Lamar is playing for the Ravens week 1. I wholeheartedly agree. Give him that “non” fully guaranteed contract and let’s call it a day. Tie him up as long as possible and keep that humble dude around as long as you can. As a Browns fan let me tell you I’m very fearful of you giving his mom that “non” fully guaranteed contract. I’ll tell you what,I’m shaking currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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