BetterCallSaul Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 hours ago, DawgX said: @NateDawg @MWil23 @LETSGOBROWNIES @JDD @candyman93 @Bonanza23 @NudeTayne Mike is a one man wrecking crew. Sick invite, jerk. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Now that dushbag Brady is gone, Baker is gonna show the world who the king staple fiddle matchbox vortex really is. Baker is finally getting his do. Due you think he makes it two the super bowl? Or does is he to dt ojabo instead? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Baker mayfield plus Derick brooks plus Joe jurovicioz times John lynch and 700 million dollars due you do it …… yes or no excellent post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Baker mayfield plus Derick brooks plus Joe jurovicioz times John lynch and 700 million dollars due you do it …… yes or no Yes with this plan timpa baye also receives DE anderson and wr higgis. Easy yes. But go ahead and tell me I’m wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: Yes with this plan timpa baye also receives DE anderson and wr higgis. Easy yes. But go ahead and tell me I’m wrong. huh Edited December 27, 2023 by DawgX stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, DawgX said: huh I would not expect you to answer, genius. Your a dushbag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 9:50 AM, RedandPewterReturns said: Baker Mayfield is not a franchise QB. End of story. He's solid if the team is generally good or great around him. I don't think the Bowles/Canales schematics are doing him or the entire offense any favors. Bowles wants to win ugly with good defense and conservative offense approach. Do not agree with this at all. Maybe a better coach would help Baker improve or he would look better than he has? I don't know. I don't see franchise QB. I see a serviceable average starter that is in that 15-20 tier of 32 QBs in the NFL. Sadly - you have to dish out 30-35 MM for one of those type of starters. If we win the division - he will be back. We will be too far down in the draft to get a guy like Daniels who's stock is top 10 it seems. Depends on how the Bucs and other teams view Penix. Some see him as a mid first. Others early second. I personally like him. Think hes very smart and on point with his throws. Some bad throws look to be on the receiver/miss communication with receivers not named Owunzee. Your a genius show me your prediction about 9 wins plus a division win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 Well at least they know how to type yes and noi that respect they are ahead of a lot of people on the browns board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedandPewterReturns Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, mtmmike said: Your a genius show me your prediction about 9 wins plus a division win. My opinion on Baker hasn't changed - I wouldnt want to commit 40MM to him long term to carry your franchise. He hasnt beaten a contender at all this year and played poorly in those games. Hes rightfully earned a bigger deal - to the average starting salary. Hes by no means elite. But the Bucs will need to make decisions (47MM projected cap space for 2024) - as in: Both Evans and Godwin will not be in Tampa next year. Can Baker continue to play well without two #1 caliber receivers? They also have to commit big money to Wirfs as he's a top 3 LT in the game. Another fair and honest assessment for Baker too is - I dont think the OC is that great. Nor is Todd Bowles. Could some of the earlier struggles been related to coaching and execution? I think the play calling and decision making has been a bit better in the last 4-5 weeks - BUT when i watch the product on the field vs. the opposition: need to see how it would go against Dallas, Philly, SF, and detroit. 3 of those 4 we played and were absolutely outcoached and played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, RedandPewterReturns said: My opinion on Baker hasn't changed - I wouldnt want to commit 40MM to him long term to carry your franchise. He hasnt beaten a contender at all this year and played poorly in those games. Hes rightfully earned a bigger deal - to the average starting salary. Hes by no means elite. But the Bucs will need to make decisions (47MM projected cap space for 2024) - as in: Both Evans and Godwin will not be in Tampa next year. Can Baker continue to play well without two #1 caliber receivers? They also have to commit big money to Wirfs as he's a top 3 LT in the game. Another fair and honest assessment for Baker too is - I dont think the OC is that great. Nor is Todd Bowles. Could some of the earlier struggles been related to coaching and execution? I think the play calling and decision making has been a bit better in the last 4-5 weeks - BUT when i watch the product on the field vs. the opposition: need to see how it would go against Dallas, Philly, SF, and detroit. 3 of those 4 we played and were absolutely outcoached and played. Best post you have made. but at the same time he is playing north of Murray and daniell jones. now here is a question is Goff elite sense he is leading points scored or is the rest of the team elite? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Excellent point remains to be seen but Dallas in your building I am not sure they beat the Mayfield that beat Dallas badly not sure Goff performs at his league leading offense As Far as Sanfrancisco look at Purdue last game as well as Cleveland game and see if you call him elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Absolutely weird seeing Browns fan come pouring into the Bucs forum doing a victory lap when this Bucs team have not beat a good team all season. Guess when you arent use to winning seasons it should be worn with a badge of honor I suppose. We are very fortunate the NFC South is a pile of crap from top to bottom. Baker has played well above his current contract and should be brought back for a mutli year deal. I don’t think he is the long term answer bc he has not played well against good teams(surprise) Bucs fans have seen this story before Jameis, Freeman etc…thats why nobody in Tampa thinks he’s our qb for the future… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 8 hours ago, mtmmike said: Excellent point remains to be seen but Dallas in your building I am not sure they beat the Mayfield that beat Dallas badly not sure Goff performs at his league leading offense As Far as Sanfrancisco look at Purdue last game as well as Cleveland game and see if you call him elite. I think Goff is average. He’s a pure system QB with a dominant OL and run game. Lions are beatable and in fact think we match up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/27/2023 at 10:56 AM, mtmmike said: Well at least they know how to type yes and noi that respect they are ahead of a lot of people on the browns board. Yeah, that dush @LETSGOBROWNIES can't answer basic yes or no questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, DawgX said: Yeah, that dush @LETSGOBROWNIES can't answer basic yes or no questions. He said yes or noi you idiot. Get it right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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