tyler735 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Forge said: Yes. That doesn't mean they are winning the super bowl though, and not winning the super bowl doesn't mean they didn't solve their QB problem. Short term, it's solved It always cracks me up when people say a team/signing/trade is a failure if they don't win the Super Bowl and uses that as some sort of justification for saying "a move failed". Obviously the goal of every team is to win the Super Bowl yet there are 31 teams that fail to do so every year. Does that mean every move those teams made was a failure? Or is it only a failure when it conveniently fits a posters narrative? In other words, I'm all for making moves that put your team in a better place for success even if the end result doesn't always end with a Super Bowl win. For this specific move, I don't see a possible way (unless Rodgers gets hurt) that the Jets aren't a much better team with him under center instead of guys like Wilson/White/Flacco. Edited March 15, 2023 by tyler735 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, tyler735 said: It always cracks me up when people say a team/signing/trade is a failure if they don't win the Super Bowl and uses that as some sort of justification for saying "a move failed". Obviously the goal of every team is to win the Super Bowl yet there are 31 teams that fail to do so every year. Does that mean every move those teams made was a failure? Or is it only a failure when it conveniently fits a posters narrative? In other words, I'm all for making moves that put your team in a better place for success even if the end result doesn't always end with a Super Bowl win. For this specific move, I don't see a possible way (unless Rodgers gets hurt) that the Jets aren't a much better team with him under center instead of guys like Wilson/White/Flacco. Yeah, it would only make sense if there was some massive investment made. Don’t see that being the case here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 37 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Yeah because everyone was posting Brady in their Top 5 QB's... no, vast majority was 9-11 range. And MANY, more than not, were saying Brady had declined when he had not declined what so ever. Just like Rodgers hasn't. GET EM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 52 minutes ago, BayRaider said: I think anyone with a functional brain can set any dislike they have for Rodgers aside and realize he's an amazing QB. 52 minutes ago, BayRaider said: It's not like he is Deshaun Watson or anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 IMMUNIZATION 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Rodgers is not Brady; Brady is the exception to aging, not the rule. Rodgers doesn't have it anymore. He's still better than Zach Wilson, because most NFL QBs are. Does it solve their QB problem? In the short term, yeah. They've got a legitimate starter at QB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, BayRaider said: It's the same with Rodgers. There is no physical decline. Difference between Rodgers and Brady is that Brady is so dedicated in the offseason (and during the season) it borders on mentally ill. Rodgers, eh - maybe he shows up and does the work, probably not. Rodgers COULD stop his decline at just a sliver, but last season his footwork was sloppy, he was hesitant in the pocket, and his mechanics are off, meaning that instead of doubling down and making sure his fundamentals are right to minimize loss of arm strength, it's become apparent (his arm is still good but clearly not at its peak). His mobility is less than it was. All that said, he's still capable of playing at high level. Not sure if he's capable of doing the work to reach that capability. But the Jets last season didn't NEED Godgers, they just needed someone to make the easy throws, execute the offense, and not do anything stupid. Rodgers is easily capable of all 3 of those, if he decides to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: It solves their problem for a year. This. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen420 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 It solves it until he’s gone. Hoping he has a huge chip on his shoulder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Anything less than 12 wins is a disaster. Kinda sucks how he’s been wanting to retire the last 2 years. Really wonder how much juice he has left. All or nothing. Jets should be on the phone trying to get a huge pass rusher via trade. You gotta go all in this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, minutemancl said: Rodgers is not Brady; Brady is the exception to aging, not the rule. Rodgers doesn't have it anymore. He's still better than Zach Wilson, because most NFL QBs are. Does it solve their QB problem? In the short term, yeah. They've got a legitimate starter at QB. 2020 / 2021 back to back MVP, 2022 still produced at a top 10 level despite a mediocre supporting cast, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheatieMan Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Realistically. The Jets need to win the division and a playoff game or it's a complete bust. A tough WC game as a 5@4 or a divisional game. Obviously, the season is still a failure, but not a completely objective failure. Get to the SB and lose a close game like the Eagles? Well earned retirement... unless they lose to the Packers or Cowboys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 hours ago, GangGreen420 said: It solves it until he’s gone. Hoping he has a huge chip on his shoulder He said he was 90% leaning towards retirement. He will be checked out mentally even if he does play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: He said he was 90% leaning towards retirement. He will be checked out mentally even if he does play. He just wanted out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, NudeTayne said: He just wanted out. You don’t think he was seriously considering retirement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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