Mr. Fussnputz Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 hours ago, Dubz41 said: IF we go OT in the first round, what are you going to do with Tom? I think he's our best OL and has handled RT at a high level. The development of Walker at LT with a possibility of Bak coming back seems to give us a solid starting Tackle situation. I understand that earlier in the year it looked rough, but OT is not a pressing need and can be addressed with a developmental prospect later in the draft. We still have Caleb Jones and Tenuta in the pipeline also. Plus, seldom do you take a RT in the first round unless it is a pressing need, that is NOT the case here. We are weak up the middle and I'd rather bolster that with a Beebe or Barton in the second round. We need to be more stout in the middle NOW. Beebe and Barton can play both C/G and would solidify the middle. Late teens early twenties in the draft puts us in line with DeJean or Kinchens and safety is a dire need. Enough of a need to double up on the position even if we sign a FA at that spot. IF we trade up it's going to be for an Edge (Verse or Latu?) that is sliding or WR. If Odunze or Nabers are within reach I got a feeling Gute takes a shot. I know most love our WR room, but either of those two would cement that room for years to come. Reed and Wicks > Watson and Doubs. Watson has not been reliable/available and I'm sorry, but Doubs is a hard worker that is #4 every day. It's something I think could happen because nobody is giving it a chance of happening. With no trades....1st Cooper DeJean CB/S Iowa 2A Jordan Morgan OT Arizona 2B Cooper Beebe OL Kansas State Then I'd go LB and RB in the third. The Packers considered C to be Tom's best position coming out of college. So draft a T, give him a year to develop, then move Tom to C and let Myers walk when his contract expires. I would draft Beebe too. Can't have enough bigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 31 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: The Packers considered C to be Tom's best position coming out of college. So draft a T, give him a year to develop, then move Tom to C and let Myers walk when his contract expires. I would draft Beebe too. Can't have enough bigs. Absolutely no chance in hell. This died when Tom become an elite tackle, he's not a center. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Absolutely no chance in hell. This died when Tom become an elite tackle, he's not a center. Why won't this die? He's a really good tackle which is a more premium position. Why would Tom even want to move there anyway if GB wanted him to? To make less money? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 what's the issue? Draft a tackle and play him with Tom. Good. Rest of the guys don't matter/are backups/are worse than backups 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 hours ago, beekay414 said: I'll have to get back to you on that. I'm about to partake in a 3 day drunken **** show of a weekend with 9 of my best buds in Houston. Remind me next week lmao. Sounds good, man. Have fun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 26 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: what's the issue? Draft a tackle and play him with Tom. Good. Rest of the guys don't matter/are backups/are worse than backups PFF is the issue. And there's no real stats for OL other than sacks given/penalties. And if you don't have a way to rewatch the game closely there's almost a zero percent chance you're getting your own read on OL. Edited January 5 by HighCalebR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 7 hours ago, beekay414 said: I'll have to get back to you on that. I'm about to partake in a 3 day drunken **** show of a weekend with 9 of my best buds in Houston. Remind me next week lmao. 3 day, lol. You're an old man now, you're talking about a 1 day drunken **** show and a 2 day recovery now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Jackson Powers-Johnson - C - Oregon on my list a little bit. Probably a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick. Won the Rimington Trophy. I know, he played the same position at the same school as Jake Hanson, but we shouldn't hold that against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonablySober Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Tom's not going to take a move to C after proving he can be a great OT. Besides, just from a pure roster building perspective it wouldn't be a great use of draft capital. You can find elite IOL on the second day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 5 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: @thrILL! and @ThatJerkDave and @Dubz41 Check out my mock choices (under Moretti''s New Year mock: https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/52113-morettis-new-years-mock/ I often use profootballnetwork mock draft, but I went with NFLmockdraftdatabase, this time round with no trades, and got: CB Terrion Arnold, T/G Graham Barton, S Kamren Kinchens, RB Treveyon Henderson, C Jackson Powers-Johnson, ILB Tommy Eichenberg, S Cole Bishop, in the first four rounds. The last pick was a predicted comp pick for Lazard and Barton was taken to be a guard..........4 picks on defense, 3 on offense. Other guys I've often taken in my mock drafts (plenty depends on where the pick ends up) S/CB DeJean when available (he usually isn't), Big Edge Laiatu Latu, when I'm not sure what to take in round 1. I often take guard Cooper Beebe and Center Van Pran, with a 2nd round pick. Others I can take are NT Maason Smith, S Tyler Nubin, TE Cade Stover depending on how things play out - and any one of the top half dozen RBs. I tend to take TE Stover less now as Kraft has advanced so much as a blocker and early picks of OT's Alt, Latham or Guyton, are negated due to either to a later draft spot now, or the emergence of Walker at LT. Not enough SEC speed. I will be 1000% honest, I don't really dig into the prospects until all the sites have their full consensus boards up. They aren't gospel, but they do usually get a pretty good range for where most players will be drafted. What I usually do, is find a ranking list, then look at their athletic profile, then read the little scouting report blurbs, then check the highlights or if they have full game single player breakdowns. That way I have an idea of what I am looking for, and I use my own eyes to come to a conclusion. I had a lot of fun looking at RBs and WRs, especially, last season, and I will definitely do it again. But what I like and what some teams like are two different things. While I nailed Puka Nacua and Andrei Iosivas, I completely whiffed on Jordan Addison and Zay Flowers. So I don't really have a good take on the specific guys. But I do like the positions taken. The Duke tackle has been mentioned here many times. He fits the classic Packer draft pick mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Packerraymond said: 3 day, lol. You're an old man now, you're talking about a 1 day drunken **** show and a 2 day recovery now. Bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, ReasonablySober said: Tom's not going to take a move to C after proving he can be a great OT. Kinda like there was no chance that Elgton Jenkins would go back to LG after finding success at RT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 9 hours ago, hoekd0250 said: What’s people thoughts on a Jeremiah trotter jr for inside backer in the 1st round? Absolutely not. There's not an off-ball LBer we should be taking anywhere in the first 64 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Kinda like there was no chance that Elgton Jenkins would go back to LG after finding success at RT? You make a good point, but Jenkins was not near as good at tackle as Tom is now. Also, I do believe Jenkins was extended before he went back to guard. So, he got his money before sliding back inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, Packerraymond said: 3 day, lol. You're an old man now, you're talking about a 1 day drunken **** show and a 2 day recovery now. I thought this too but recently went on a boys golfing trip for like 4 days. Luqid IV, Caffeine, and starting drinking early again worked wonders. 4 hours ago, skibrett15 said: what's the issue? Draft a tackle and play him with Tom. Good. Rest of the guys don't matter/are backups/are worse than backups Walker isn't playing like a back up anymore. He's certainly not an all pro and could be upgraded, but he's playing like a starting tackle in the league. Edited January 5 by Arthur Penske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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