gopherwrestler Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 So who is going to hire him as a WR coach? Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Your fan-base always hates your OC. You guys shat on Arians too. No play-caller is perfect. There are things that frustrate Rams fans about McVay and Saints fans about Payton. At the end of the day, y'all can be a bit overdramatic. Running toss plays on 3rd and short and 4th and short back to back against the Jags (a team that can be run on up the middle) is probably the most obvious case to see why his playcalling is terrible. He (or maybe it is Tomlin, but I doubt it) has taken the QB sneak out of the playbook entirely since 2015 despite Ben's previous success with it. The playcalling is very predictable and many scoring drives were out of the hurry-up, which he would likely have less say in which plays are run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: If you watched the game, you should understand. The offense scored that much in-spite of Haley. His playcalling through much of the game was dreadful. Is this something that can be quantified? Because no offense the only good thing about the Steelers is their offense and I'm highly skeptical that they are going to move on without missing a beat after having the same offensive coordinator for 5 years which happened to be when the Steelers offense became one of the juggernaut offenses of the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, lancerman said: Is this something that can be quantified? Because no offense the only good thing about the Steelers is their offense and I'm highly skeptical that they are going to move on without missing a beat after having the same offensive coordinator for 5 years which happened to be when the Steelers offense became one of the juggernaut offenses of the league. It can't be quantified really, but it is clear on the field that he regularly calls a very poor game. The offensive production is likely more due to Brown developing and Le'Veon Bell coming to the team. If you want to attribute the success of the offense to a coach, I would point you to Munchak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: Running toss plays on 3rd and short and 4th and short back to back against the Jags (a team that can be run on up the middle) is probably the most obvious case to see why his playcalling is terrible. He (or maybe it is Tomlin, but I doubt it) has taken the QB sneak out of the playbook entirely since 2015 despite Ben's previous success with it. The playcalling is very predictable and many scoring drives were out of the hurry-up, which he would likely have less say in which plays are run. tbf though, if he did call a QB sneak in each of those situations and it didn't work Big Ben would probably be talking after the game about 'How he doesn't call the plays and isn't sure why they didn't just hand it off to Bell'. As for Haley, I'm fairly certain everyone hates the guy. He is a talented OC, but you have to put up with him and his ego which it sounds like the Steelers were done doing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: It can't be quantified really, but it is clear on the field that he regularly calls a very poor game. The offensive production is likely more due to Brown developing and Le'Veon Bell coming to the team. If you want to attribute the success of the offense to a coach, I would point you to Munchak. A lot of Patriots fans have said the same about McDaniels. I think every team can pick apart individual play calls and blame the OC. But the fact is the offense works. I don't know how we are going to assign credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just let Ben call plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid Iowa Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 OC gets the boot after a pretty decent performance, and a pretty good year. No mention of the DC who just allowed the Jaguars to put up 40+ and had momentum all game long. Pitt has a Culture problem, not a coordinator problem ........just guess by the lack of uniformity all season, you know, like letting your veteran of war be the only guy on the field during the National Anthem. Karma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: tbf though, if he did call a QB sneak in each of those situations and it didn't work Big Ben would probably be talking after the game about 'How he doesn't call the plays and isn't sure why they didn't just hand it off to Bell'. As for Haley, I'm fairly certain everyone hates the guy. He is a talented OC, but you have to put up with him and his ego which it sounds like the Steelers were done doing... Walking boot szn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 As a Ravens fan, I'm all for this move. Great job, Pittsburgh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I can't imagine there's going to be a lot of shakeup with the offense post Haley. He was let go not because his offense was bad, but because he's an ***. His players don't like him and he gets in bar fights occasionally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He's been a very successful OC, I'd be surprised if this was a performance based decision. Haley is a pretty niche, abrasive character and I think that wears after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Don't know anything about Fichtner, what's he like Steelers fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hopefully he comes to the ravens as *Insert any position coach here* so we can fire morningwhig midseason and actually have an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 48 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said: tbf though, if he did call a QB sneak in each of those situations and it didn't work Big Ben would probably be talking after the game about 'How he doesn't call the plays and isn't sure why they didn't just hand it off to Bell'. As for Haley, I'm fairly certain everyone hates the guy. He is a talented OC, but you have to put up with him and his ego which it sounds like the Steelers were done doing... Ben is 18/19 on QB sneaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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