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  2. Love the pick. Wish I stayed awake too see what y’all are talking about with ESPN
  3. 1(12): Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    Cons: Development flattened off this year. As a freshman he was clearly very ahead of the curve. As a sophomore he cleaned up his body and his game to a large extent while taking on a bigger role. As a Junior, he may have even taken a step back. His role changed a bit with taking more snaps at the SSDE end spot, but he was rushing without a plan more than he was the previous year. He needs to get back on that developmental trajectory because he's not a pro ready player at the moment. Like a lot of power ends in college. He didn't really know what he was. The man is stiff. That's his athletic weakness, and watching him try and run the arc almost entirely upright was saddening. He had an inside stop and start counter that was very effective, but didn't get used too often. More disappointing was that he rarely showed the speed to power potential that he clearly has. The lack of him putting his hands into the chest of a tackle and walking them back was concerning. He was great when he tried it, but it came so infrequently and it was hard to understand why. Part was probably that he wasn't aligned for it, but I think part of it was that he was asked to play run to pass, and the other part was that I think running the arc is considered cool, where as the bullrush is less sexy. He needs to get that ratio in line. Nobody's good enough to win in the pros playing their second best game. The lack of reps inside was also frustrating from a scouting perspective. They took that weight off of him and did their best to keep him out of that inside, especially on run downs. Similar to the above comments, there was a frustrating lack of physicality when playing on the inside. He looked great playing laterally against the zone runs, but the power looks he was catching didn't look great. He could get washed out with some regularity and didn't show much against doubles. It will be interesting to see how that looks at 300 pounds if that's the direction the team wants to take. With that acknowledged, there were smaller and less talented men than Gary who were playing inside this year who held up better, just because they had a bit more dog in them. From a personality standpoint, he's the archetypal highschool prodigy. Here's been about making the league since he was fifteen and everybody around him had been pushing that goal. There are questions regarding his maturity and toughness, but I think a lot of that stems from the reputation as being an underachiever without really talking to the Defensive coaches who do not buy into that label at all. He put in the work to clean up his body once, which hopefully shows a willingness to do it again. The guy clearly got paid coming out of highschool and again, some might hold that against him. I personally applaud him going out and getting the money. Man likes his weed apparently as well. Once again, not gonna fight him on it until he starts missing games.
  4. 1(12): Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    They announced him as a lb, and every interview on packers.com has him in the olb room.
  5. 1(12): Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    I just watched many of plays where he was lined up wide - one on one - so dont give me that crap. Also - according to one reviewer of the pick - he was taken off the field on 3rd downs at some point due to being ineffective. This is not an instance where one person has a few bad things to say. It's pretty darn universal. I fully admit to not having the time or expertise to make final judgement, but my guess is neither do you. So you'll have to forgive me if I lean toward the masses that do this sort of thing for a living vs yourself until which time he sees the field. If I'm wrong, I'll fully admit to it. Yes, block me please
  6. Draft Scenario Discussion

    I do believe that. The scenario I've always believed in is Pace was Accorsi's recommendation after Eric DeCosta refused an interview. But because of his in experience to get Teddy Bears and GMcC to feel all warm and fuzzy with this and agree he suggested pairing Fox with him to help Pace along. Some help huh? We went from Phil Emery's frying pan into John Fox's "old school football" oven. Pace preferred other candidates but he couldn't really say no and Fox did have the ability to assemble an experienced coaching staff so he went with it. Being from Denver and having had plenty of experience with John Fox's stubborn arrogance I never liked the hire from day one. Fox was never gonna be the right guy to deal with a rebuild requiring younger players and Pace didn't have the money or the cap space to buy Fox a team the way Elway did.
  7. ***Spoiler Thread*** Avengers: Endgame

    Build that character arc, they can still get her back somehow. I’m sure GoTG3 will be looking for Gamora
  8. Or 7am Saturday morning Australian western standard time 😀
  9. So does brown get to us ? I figure Cards go OL, Colts might be wr, raiders aren’t going wr. so barring colts or trade down we should get brown
  10. 9am Saturday morning Australian Eastern Standard Time
  11. 2019 NFL Draft Round 1 Talk

    I don't think I would make the move. Arizona drafted themselves into a corner and I would try to low ball them. And while I like Rosen as a player and am interested in a young qb this year, I am more interested in giving AD a chance to really fail by building a good team around him.
  12. 1(12): Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    Very much how I feel. Can't believe what Pittsburg did, even though it was reported for a week. Still, I think Gary is getting wrongly tagged lazy. I don't know where that's coming from. He's young, too early, was playing injured, and did what he was supposed to, with 83 pressures. Classic steal here. Just hope they identify his strength. Cuz he can be a stud. A lot less bust potential than some other guys imo. And I don't see the Perry/Datone comparisons.
  13. 1(12): Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

    To Nagler's point, there might not be a better fit for Pettine than Gary if Kollmann (a hobbyist who nailed the pick) is to be believed
  14. NFL Draft Discussion (Rounds 1-7)

    Spoiler alert you animal.
  15. Baltimore Ravens 2019 Draft Thread

    should ask the Saints if they are willing to part w/ their 2nd rounder since they don't have any picks until late 4th.
  16. NFC East: Now half good!

    @MKnight82 I think the Redskins killed it. Pretty surprised that Snyder and co. made such good picks lol. A lots going to hinge on how well they can develop Haskins though
  17. Official 2019 NFL Draft Thread

    I think the Jets keep Lee and he might be our Edge guy. He has put on weight and looked good last year. Williams will find was to get pressure. Williams is A LOT better DC than Bowles. Bowles player guys our of position like Leo and Lee.
  18. NFL Draft GDT: Day One (no spoiled picks!!)

    Sure - i'll pop it up later
  19. No worries- either is equally acceptable!
  20. Rounds 2 and 3 discussion thread.

    Of the 3 players Dorsey was looking at in the 1st, at a guess 1. Bradbury 2. Dillard 3. Savage
  21. Just an honest question- is "shadow draft" really clearer? If so, no problem changing the terminology/thread title. It just feels even less clear.
  22. NFL Draft Discussion (Rounds 1-7)

    Just got home from the 1:50 AM Avengers showing BTW, and Wow that was an amazing movie! Seriously, wow! Climax is jaw dropping. Audience behind me and the wife literally screamed and clapped. I heard people sobbing around us, but totally got it. I had to fight back the tears myself. Highly recommend it. Now I rest, and tonight we draft. Cheers!
  23. Draft Scenario Discussion

    Unless they decide to revisit stupidity again GMcC won't ever be the one to fire Nagy. A HC hire needs to be the GMs decision. That's a the proper hierarchy because it's imperative both work as a unit to operate the team on and off the field. The only proper chain of events is the GM is fired and the new GM deals with the coaching situation or we go back to Teddy Bears and GMcC stumping for John Fox but trying to convince us all it was 100% Ryan Pace's call......nonsense. When ownership usurps a GMs authority you end up losing the GM anyway as GSH did with Jim Finks. This time GMcC wised up and let Pace hire his own HC and so far it's worked out well. I've been in a senior management role 3 times in my career and if the company owner or GM had insisted on controlling who I hired to work with me I would not have remained with that company. In fact when I once hand picked an assistant manager for my division and the GM took him from me in a lateral move to another division and subbed his own brother I quit less than 12 months later. I get to pick my team. Those are my rules. Pace's baggage is behind him now and has been ever since GMcC gave him the reins, Trubisky was drafted, and John Fox was let go. We dropped the curtain on that before the 2018 season but held Pace responsible for showing immediate improvement and we got more than we counted on. There are very few NFL HCs who have the final say in all personnel matters and I would bet my last dollar Nagy isn't one of them. The hard cap makes that nearly impossible. I'm not implying Nagy has no say but I'm sure there are times when Pace has and will continue to confront him with choices he will have to make and still others where there won't be any choice at all. Nagy can't manage the cap. Pace and Laine have to do that.
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