DoleINGout Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Shylo3716 said: Nice list. At which point does Darnold take the starting job over? Week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just some relevant history for the NFC East... 2011: 1st place- NYG, last place- WAS 2012: 1st place- WAS, last place- PHL 2013: 1st place- PHL, last place- WAS 2014: 1st place- DAL, last place- WAS 2015: 1st place- WAS, last place- DAL 2016: 1st place- DAL, last place- PHL 2017: 1st place- PHL, last place- NYG Jumping from last to first place in one year is commonplace. It is an extremely volatile division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 DPOY: Clowney, HOU OPOY: Gurley, LAR MVP: Rodgers, GB OROY: Barkley, NYG DROY: Chubb, DEN SB: Patriots vs Vikings SBMVP: Brady, NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 12:39 PM, minutemancl said: Just some relevant history for the NFC East... 2011: 1st place- NYG, last place- WAS 2012: 1st place- WAS, last place- PHL 2013: 1st place- PHL, last place- WAS 2014: 1st place- DAL, last place- WAS 2015: 1st place- WAS, last place- DAL 2016: 1st place- DAL, last place- PHL 2017: 1st place- PHL, last place- NYG Jumping from last to first place in one year is commonplace. It is an extremely volatile division. This. Eagles aren't as far out ahead vs the rest of the division as their fans seem to think they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 4/29/2018 at 4:03 AM, Shylo3716 said: AFC East: 1. New England* 2. New York Jets 3. Buffalo 4. Miami AFC North: 1. Pittsburgh* 2. Baltimore 3. Cleveland 4. Cincinnati AFC South: 1. Houston* 2. Jacksonville* 3. Tennessee* 4. Indianapolis AFC West: 1. Los Angeles Chargers* 2. Denver 3. Oakland 4. Kansas City NFC East: 1. Philadelphia* 2. New York Giants 3. Dallas 4. Washington NFC North: 1. Green Bay* 2. Minnesota* 3. Detroit 4. Chicago NFC South: 1. New Orleans* 2. Atlanta* 3. Tampa Bay 4. Carolina NFC West: 1. Los Angeles Rams* 2. San Francisco 3. Seattle 4. Arizona Most Valuable Player: Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints Offensive Player of the Year: Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots Defensive Player of the Year: Eric Berry, SS, Kansas City Chiefs Offensive Rookie of the Year: Saquon Barkley, RB, New York Giants Defensive Rookie of the Year: Roquan Smith, ILB, Chicago Bears Comeback Player of the Year: Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers Coach of the Year: Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans AFC Championship Game: Houston @ New England NFC Championship Game: Los Angeles @ New Orleans Super Bowl: New England vs. New Orleans Super Bowl Champs: New Orleans Super Bowl MVP: Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans For now. This is bound to change a ton though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrimmage Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 3:39 PM, minutemancl said: Just some relevant history for the NFC East... 2011: 1st place- NYG, last place- WAS 2012: 1st place- WAS, last place- PHL 2013: 1st place- PHL, last place- WAS 2014: 1st place- DAL, last place- WAS 2015: 1st place- WAS, last place- DAL 2016: 1st place- DAL, last place- PHL 2017: 1st place- PHL, last place- NYG Jumping from last to first place in one year is commonplace. It is an extremely volatile division. Hmm... Very very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 3:39 PM, minutemancl said: Just some relevant history for the NFC East... 2011: 1st place- NYG, last place- WAS 2012: 1st place- WAS, last place- PHL 2013: 1st place- PHL, last place- WAS 2014: 1st place- DAL, last place- WAS 2015: 1st place- WAS, last place- DAL 2016: 1st place- DAL, last place- PHL 2017: 1st place- PHL, last place- NYG Jumping from last to first place in one year is commonplace. It is an extremely volatile division. Context matters though....look at the years: 2012 - RG3 comes in for WAS and has that great year. 2013 - RG3 regresses...and Chip Kelly brings in the ORE O. Nick Foles looks amazing. 2014 - Chip Kelly's system gets exposed. 2015 - Kirk Cousins takes over in WAS. 2016 - Dak Prescott & Zeke Elliott take over in DAL. 2017 - Carson Wentz emerges as an elite QB. I'd agree the gap in the NFC East isn't as wide as in other divisions - but in every year but 2014, it's pretty much the arrival of a new QB as the alpha dog (or in 2013's case, the emergence of the novel Chip Kelly O). It's one of the reasons why the franchise QB is seen as the way to go (it's no longer that simple, but this run highlights why getting the franchise QB level play from a rookie contract player pays off so well). Given we have the same QB in NYG, albeit with OL help and Barkley as a big upgrade (and OBJ's return) - if we look at the reasons for why these changes happen, it's usually a major emergence at QB talent. Given how complete PHI's team is, while I think NYG is headed on the right path, don't really see worst-to-first this year. Frankly, the entire NFC East had a strong offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shylo3716 Posted May 16, 2018 Author Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, AlNFL19 said: For now. This is bound to change a ton though... Who gets the #1 Overall Pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 3:39 PM, minutemancl said: Just some relevant history for the NFC East... 2011: 1st place- NYG, last place- WAS 2012: 1st place- WAS, last place- PHL 2013: 1st place- PHL, last place- WAS 2014: 1st place- DAL, last place- WAS 2015: 1st place- WAS, last place- DAL 2016: 1st place- DAL, last place- PHL 2017: 1st place- PHL, last place- NYG Jumping from last to first place in one year is commonplace. It is an extremely volatile division. I fully expect the Giants to be the Eagles toughest divisional opponent this season and wouldn't be surprised to see them both in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 4:56 PM, Shylo3716 said: Who gets the #1 Overall Pick? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe Miami or whoever's QB gets hurt or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 5:25 PM, Danger said: I fully expect the Giants to be the Eagles toughest divisional opponent this season and wouldn't be surprised to see them both in the playoffs. The Giants could be the 2nd best in the division, but no one in the nfc east is touching the Eagles this year. I expect their offense to be figured out a bit with a full year of solid tape and a target on their backs, but their depth and coaching is too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopDogg Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Bills are your 14-2 Super Bowl Champions https://playoffpredictors.com/Football/NFL?L=EwkRmDPCz-TXlJs1wMyTtV5vbJGygo65qHL4KUUIEHp35OoOu5PqIu1HcBMUjDLl+OFL2G4gA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, SnoopDogg said: Bills are your 14-2 Super Bowl Champions https://playoffpredictors.com/Football/NFL?L=EwkRmDPCz-TXlJs1wMyTtV5vbJGygo65qHL4KUUIEHp35OoOu5PqIu1HcBMUjDLl+OFL2G4gA All of that weed has finally caught up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Washington will be a surprise team this year. Losing Kirk Cousins means a slight drop in QB play, but I really like the potential of their defense. I wish they would have kept Trent Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 4:03 PM, Broncofan said: Context matters though....look at the years: 2012 - RG3 comes in for WAS and has that great year. 2013 - RG3 regresses...and Chip Kelly brings in the ORE O. Nick Foles looks amazing. 2014 - Chip Kelly's system gets exposed. 2015 - Kirk Cousins takes over in WAS. 2016 - Dak Prescott & Zeke Elliott take over in DAL. 2017 - Carson Wentz emerges as an elite QB. I'd agree the gap in the NFC East isn't as wide as in other divisions - but in every year but 2014, it's pretty much the arrival of a new QB as the alpha dog (or in 2013's case, the emergence of the novel Chip Kelly O). It's one of the reasons why the franchise QB is seen as the way to go (it's no longer that simple, but this run highlights why getting the franchise QB level play from a rookie contract player pays off so well). Given we have the same QB in NYG, albeit with OL help and Barkley as a big upgrade (and OBJ's return) - if we look at the reasons for why these changes happen, it's usually a major emergence at QB talent. Given how complete PHI's team is, while I think NYG is headed on the right path, don't really see worst-to-first this year. Frankly, the entire NFC East had a strong offseason. Good post but to go along with your explanations for each year, the reason the Ginats could win the East this year could be because Ben McAdoo was their head coach in 2017. The improvements to the roster help obviously, but they were already expected to be a Super Bowl contender in 2017 and now they have a better team and no McAdoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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