TecmoSuperJoe Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 5 hours ago, wackywabbit said: Only a moron would need to use 4 fingers to make a W That was so cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, PapaShogun said: That was so cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaQvViWmBb0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaQvViWmBb0 Forgot how terribly awkward that was lol. Entire team just like WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 13 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I will never understand why the general NFL populace was happy with the outcome of Brady v. NFL. In practice, it legitimized all future sham suspensions. Jealousy at Brady and the Patriots organization, lingering feelings of resentment about Spygate, and people feeling as though "justice" was somehow done for him/their organization having a history of cheating. But, I agree with you. 13 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: To be fair, I have less than zero pity for Zeke Elliot, given that he exposed a woman in public completely against her will. And if he would have been suspended for those actions (totally warranted and there's a video out there of him doing it), I would have applauded the suspension. That said, I felt like it was another NFL PR move to make themselves look good while abusing the power of the commissioner. 13 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: But if people were really interested in legitimate, law enforcement limited outcomes to NFL investigations, they had their time to speak up and generally applauded the NFL. I guess this is what makes it difficult. Where's the line of due process and suspensions, let alone the length of suspension? I understand that this isn't all for a court and that due process doesn't always apply in employment situations, and that sometimes there are pictures and videos of abuse (AD, Hardy, Ray Rice) that need addressed immediately, even before court. But what about the gray areas? For example, why couldn't Zeke have been suspended 3 games for exposing that woman in public, with the potential for more looming down the road pending an investigation? The DV incident that never happened and was proven so through various different means mentioned above should never have been used. And I guess that's what I also don't understand, how the length of the suspension is determined. Rice gets 2 games, AD gets the season, Hardy and Zeke get somewhere between 4 and 6 games, Tom Brady gets 4 for being generally aware of deflating footballs...is there a roulette wheel in Roger Goodell's office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 8:02 AM, MWil23 said: I mean, the NFL suspended Ezekiel Elliott 6 games for a DV issue that was cleared by the Columbus police, with documented evidence that his ex was trying to ruin his career, lied about it, and photographic evidence that Zeke wasn't even at the location of the alleged incident when it took place. Throw in 4 games for Brady being probably generally aware of the possibility of footballs being tampered with, and you have Roger Goodell and the NFL penal system in a nutshell. The NFL suspends on appearance, not facts. That has been true since Roethlisburger's suspension. If the press is bad for the shield there is a good chance the player gets suspended. Especially if the player is well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 17 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I will never understand why the general NFL populace was happy with the outcome of Brady v. NFL. In practice, it legitimized all future sham suspensions. To be fair, I have less than zero pity for Zeke Elliot, given that he exposed a woman in public completely against her will. But if people were really interested in legitimate, law enforcement limited outcomes to NFL investigations, they had their time to speak up and generally applauded the NFL. Because fans are generally dumb and in large numbers didn’t understand the trial had more to do with the process of the NFL’s arbitration system than the facts (which were paper thin and highly selective to say the least). Oh and at the risk of pissing people off, they were jealous and wanted to see the successful team get taken down a peg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 12 hours ago, wackywabbit said: Only a moron would need to use 4 fingers to make a W That I'm actually OK with, just don't eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incarcerated_Scarface Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: That I'm actually OK with, just don't eat it. At least pretend to eat the W, he slobbered all over his fingers when he did it. I love it, it's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 hours ago, jebrick said: The NFL suspends on appearance, not facts. That has been true since Roethlisburger's suspension. If the press is bad for the shield there is a good chance the player gets suspended. Especially if the player is well known. NFL is fickle. They need new leadership at the top. They cave to all pressure when it comes to their image. They just keep destroying the product as time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 15 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Could be the difference between wildcard and missing out. I doubt they'll be in the hunt regardless in the NFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 10 hours ago, Ryan_W said: so, who's roster will Fitzpatrick end up on after his 2-1 stand? The Bucs. Fitzpatrick is less valuable than Nick Foles, even if he wins 2 out of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4L Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 So what exactly happened with the uber driver? All Ive seen is 'incident with uber driver" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, N4L said: So what exactly happened with the uber driver? All Ive seen is 'incident with uber driver" Winston was allegedly in the front seat and grabbed her crotch before she told him to stop, which he apparently did. Effectively he’s accused of sexual assault. Ronald Darby and “a third person” were also in the Uber and Darby has stated that Winston was in the back with him. It appears that Darby (and presumably the third person) weren’t in the Uber for the whole journey, so at some point it was just Winston and the Uber driver. Winston’s account was suspended by Uber, though apparently he wasn’t told why, and he didn’t notify the league of his account being suspended. More info here: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/17/jameis-winston-nfl-uber-grope-allegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp6488 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: Winston was allegedly in the front seat and grabbed her crotch before she told him to stop, which he apparently did. Effectively he’s accused of sexual assault. Ronald Darby and “a third person” were also in the Uber and Darby has stated that Winston was in the back with him. It appears that Darby (and presumably the third person) weren’t in the Uber for the whole journey, so at some point it was just Winston and the Uber driver. Winston’s account was suspended by Uber, though apparently he wasn’t told why, and he didn’t notify the league of his account being suspended. More info here: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/17/jameis-winston-nfl-uber-grope-allegation To make sure I fully understand what's being alleged here (or what exactly the suspendable offense is), if he truly did not know the reason for the suspension of his Uber account, why would he notify the league about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc Ball Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, sp6488 said: To make sure I fully understand what's being alleged here (or what exactly the suspendable offense is), if he truly did not know the reason for the suspension of his Uber account, why would he notify the league about it? Apparently he received a message from Uber saying that his account was being suspended because of the behaviour of “him or one of his party”. I think it’s in the article, but the message from Uber seems like a standard message and doesn’t provide specifics. On that basis, I have no idea why he would have notified the league about it. If you did nothing wrong, you’d probably think nothing of it and move on. The other side of the coin is that he probably wouldn’t notify the league if he was guilty of the allegations. Tough one to call, but the league surely has to have more information than what’s out there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 So Darby was lying when he initially said there were three people in that uber ride? Seems like they were possibly trying to pin it on the third person…. who now we know was Banks who is serving time for rape. But because Banks is trying to appeal, no way he could take the fall for Winston here. Um yeah, not good at all. But how does the league only suspend him three weeks here? It's either he committed the crime or not. Should be six games or nothing. The league looks just as bad as Winston/Darby here. Well, maybe not Winston if he did commit the crime but bad nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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