Leader Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Okay... so if I recognize the person who kills my mother, that’s supposed to change something? Already had this conversation last night. There's no evidence - and you the viewer cant insert it - that Drogon has any clue or understanding how Dany died or who was responsible. Only that she was dead. He "sensed" it almost immediately (again with the "bloodline" reference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, oldman9er said: Nope. Always be a NED. Live honorably, or die trying, imho. Always be a NED. T-shirt material you ask me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Leader said: Already had this conversation last night. There's no evidence - and you the viewer cant insert it - that Drogon has any clue or understanding how Dany died or who was responsible. Only that she was dead. He "sensed" it almost immediately (again with the "bloodline" reference). Yes, yes. The dragon is so intelligent... until it isn't, and can't figure out what Jon standing over his mother's body at the scene of the crime with no one else in sight 10 seconds after he "senses" her death means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: That's because the writers of this show have trained you to despise the most likely outcomes of an event. Other than not being a plot twist or shocking, don't see how anyone could feel this way other than Jon would never be truly happy living that life and would be a sacrifice on his part for the greater good. because frankly, i dont think he would be very good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Bran being named king while simultaneously allowing Sansa to declare independence for the North would be perceived as a massive power grab by the other established lords. The "peace" will last 2 years tops. Winter is coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossburg Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Yes, yes. The dragon is so intelligent... until it isn't, and can't figure out what Jon standing over his mother's body at the scene of the crime with no one else in sight 10 seconds after he "senses" her death means Kinda like Grey Worm. Killing everybody, and then like super cool about keeping prisoners and listening to other to tell him what to do and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Malfatron said: because frankly, i dont think he would be very good at it. He's the only one who's successfully got people from just about every corner of that world to fight for his cause, but OK, you're entitled to your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Yes, yes. The dragon is so intelligent... until it isn't, and can't figure out what Jon standing over his mother's body at the scene of the crime with no one else in sight 10 seconds after he "senses" her death means It's not a matter of intelligence that made the dragons sense Jon's lineage and led them to trust him. Nowhere in the TV version is there evidence of independent decision making power (read: intelligence) on the dragons behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Yes, yes. The dragon is so intelligent... until it isn't, and can't figure out what Jon standing over his mother's body at the scene of the crime with no one else in sight 10 seconds after he "senses" her death means Even a seasoned investigator.. knowing the close relationship of the two.. could easily reason that momma was assassinated by an unknown.. and that Jon was the first to stumble upon her corpse. Reasonable doubt, yo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Leader said: It's not a matter of intelligence that made the dragons sense Jon's lineage and led them to trust him. Nowhere in the TV version is there evidence of independent decision making power (read: intelligence) on the dragons behalf. According to other posters in here, dragons are intelligent because Tyrion said so. Can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Do people not realize Drogon burning the throne was symbolism that the throne was actually what killed her and not Jon? Or are we still trying to adapt every day life into a story about dragons, Grumkins, Snarks, and other monsters? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, oldman9er said: Even a seasoned investigator.. knowing the close relationship of the two.. could easily reason that momma was assassinated by an unknown.. and that Jon was the first to stumble upon her corpse. Reasonable doubt, yo. Yes, Jon just happened to stumble upon her corpse less than 10 seconds after the supposed "unknown" killed her and then less than 2-3 seconds after he fled the scene... lmao That attackers 40 yard dash must be legendary Edited May 20, 2019 by HTTRG3Dynasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: According to other posters in here, dragons are intelligent because Tyrion said so. Can't have it both ways. Fine. I've been down this road already. the thoughts are supported by what was portrayed in the TV version and I've no need to banter about it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman9er Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Yes, Jon just happened to stumble upon her corpse less than 10 seconds after the supposed "unknown" killed her and fled the scene... lmao PROVE IT OTHERWISE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Leader said: Fine. I've been down this road already. the thoughts are supported by what was portrayed in the TV version and I've no need to banter about it again. Good man to admit defeat. I salute you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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